[Nico]

You know, I've noticed, on the latest copyright page of the latest (well, maybe not only the latest, but it's quite recent I believe), that it's also infringement to lend a movie to friends. I mean, that's like, crazy... you're not allowed to lend your stuff? How do they want people not to go against such idiocies and, starting from that, escalate to piracy? I'm the dumb kind, the kind that if you told him not to do something that goes against his likings, he will do it, and he will do it tenfolds.

You know, I use p2p progs, hell, I'm probably the first user on the whole forum for them (you simply can't beat me, I have emule running 24/24 7/7, and more than often have a couple BT running along with it), and all that pisses me off (I do not d/l stuff that is licensed in my country, tho, because I believe it would, indeed, hurt the local market of the things I'm d/ling, I don't want to be sued and, finally, I like owning the genuine object, as crazy as it may sound), I just don't agree to false excuses.
Mmh, my english there seems a bit dodgy, hope it's understandable

[achtung]

I'm surprised that warez hasn't ben caught yet I mean it has millions of users and just look at it's name for god's sake.

[Hunter]

Something always comes  up to replace that which has been lost. They will never be rid of this problem. Or is it a problem? I think there is a larger issue at hand here. I just don't think anyone in the government, corporations, etc will listen. Everyone knows deep down that piracy has become so widespread that every person, in every major country of the world, does, or at least knows someone who is involved with file sharing of some form. I have met very few people in my age group who don't download music, tv dramas, etc. Do I look at my friends as criminals? No I don't. I'm not saying I endorse file sharing, but... They aren't doing anything good enough to resolve it. They are trying to stop it. Kill it at the source. That's not good enough. They need to come up with a solution to the problem. What that is, I have no idea. But society is changing, and things will just spiral out of control unless someone finds a solution.

[aldo_14]

If people feel they get good value from legit purchases, they usually do buy stuff; I do, after all - I have something like 100CDs, 20-30 of which were bought directly as a result of 'sampling' them via P2P networks.  

What they need to do is make sure stuff is good value; people are seeing CD-Rs sold on spindles at something like £5 for 50, it's inevitable they'll question why music CDs cost £14 (if you shop in the high street stores like Virgin or HMV).  Likewise DVDs and software; I think people are seeing the vast profits being made off these things, and they're becoming savvy to the reality that they're being ripped off.

Not of course that there's a major detrimental effect.  Music, for example, IIRC has seen increases in sales for albums in the UK - because companies have reduced prices to counter P2P.

[Scuddie]

Originally posted by Nico
Excepted cars aren't made for hit and run. P2P programs are made for... ok, let's be honest, what are they used for? What 99,9% of the users use them for?

People have wised up to not getting music over P2P programs.  Between half the music intentionally destroyed (faked files), and the other half sub-par MP3s by people who dont know WTF they are doing, it is plainly clear what P2P networks are used for today.  Porn.

[Nico]

I use them for animes

[Zarax]

Abandonware and video samples distribution with emule (you can use in a BTish way too), my traffic is nearing the TB

[redsniper]

Originally posted by Nico
I use them for animes