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Offline Grug

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Those are amazing works of art! :D

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The blue one looks awesome, but it also looks like it doesn't belong.  The orange/red one looks awesome, but it also looks overwhelming.  I still think that if you put the two together, it would look perfect.  A redish orange flaming head of explosion followed subtley by a blue trail would work perfectly, IMO.

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Offline DaBrain

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where can i get the blue shockwave, it looks amazing but the link is broken?
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Very, very strange... I access the FTP with my FTP software. The files are there, but still the links don't work. :confused:
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That just doesn't look very realistic. I mean... there's no obvious reason for the shockwave to go from white to light blue and then suddenly to orange and dark red. It just doesn't seem to merge very well.

I guess that's down to taste, but it doesn't seem to work for me.

Personally I think shockwaves tailered to the species would work best. White (on the inside of the wave) to dark blue (on the outside) for Terrans. White to bright green for Vasudans and white to dark blood red for Shivans. The more cinematic the better (like explosions) rather than bright solid comic-like.

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Offline Mefustae

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It would be logical to have colour-coded shockwaves, as each ship is presumably using a distinctive reactor & fuel system specific to their own species (would be a problem for something like the Deimos; a Terran Ship with a Vasudan Reactor if i remember correctly)...but then, you have to ask yourself, with so much colour-coding already...when will it end?! Sooner or later, the Species should cross over aesthetically, and i think it should be the shockwaves...in my opinion; standardisation for all races involved...

 

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Why would different ships need to produce different colour shockwaves? Do you think that after 60 years of living together, Terrans and Vasudans still use different fuel in their reactors? Or that they ever truely did at all? Just because the vasudan reactors were more efficient doesn't mean they have to make everything a different colour when they cook off. That's just taking a running theme (like the beam colours) and taking it waaaaay too far.
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I'm 100% sure those 'code-colored' shockwaves would look ugly. It maybe easily possible to recolor them in real-time, but the result can't look very good...


I think even if all races have different effect sets, they shouldn't vary too much.


I'd like to have more race specific shield effects. Not only a different color.
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What if you made a grey-scale explosion and have the SCP implement ship-specific colourization? The HUD is technically such.
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Offline DaBrain

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This should be possible with a few code changes. (The shield effect already uses this system.

Bob's material system will also allow this afiak.
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Offline Fineus

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That's just taking a running theme (like the beam colours) and taking it waaaaay too far.

How do you figure? If the beams are different colours per race - you'd think the reactors would be as well. It rather emphasises that each race uses a different power / fuel / energy / whatever to keep things ticking over.

 

Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Mefustae
It would be logical to have colour-coded shockwaves, as each ship is presumably using a distinctive reactor & fuel system specific to their own species (would be a problem for something like the Deimos; a Terran Ship with a Vasudan Reactor if i remember correctly)...but then, you have to ask yourself, with so much colour-coding already...when will it end?! Sooner or later, the Species should cross over aesthetically, and i think it should be the shockwaves...in my opinion; standardisation for all races involved...


I'm not sure the colour would correspond to the reactor type; IMO it'd be a radial burst of emitted gas which burns as it's spread before extinguishing.  So the one colour would be more suitable - IMO.

 

Offline Boomer

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I think it would rely more on building materials.  The reactor cooking off supplies the energy to convert just about everything to a plasma, but color in flames and explosions comes from the presence of metals, not non metals.  We already know the Terrans and Vasudans build differently (Serapis armor compared to Myrmidon or even Apollo Armor), why shouldn't there be a difference in the color of the explosion?  I can see not changing HOW they blow up, but to say that every time a big ship, built by two different species blows up, that it is going to produce the same color of shockwave every time is somewhat, improbable to me.
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I just think the colour should be based on ship class.

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Here we go again... taste problems.

I don't care about the technical background. It want the best looking option. ;)

Like I said I think shockwaves from differnt races shouldn't differ much, but I think it would be cool if you're able to see the difference though. Just a bit.


Well, I'm the one who's doing this stuff anyway... so it's decided now. :drevil:


Edit: BTW the links are working abain. :)
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Originally posted by DaBrain
Like I said I think shockwaves from differnt races shouldn't differ much, but I think it would be cool if you're able to see the difference though. Just a bit.

Well, I'm the one who's doing this stuff anyway... so it's decided now. :drevil:
 


1:Yeah, i agree, like all the shockwaves being red per-se but mabye vasudans ahve a slight greenish tint to it or somthing etc...


2:that's the best additude to take on matters like this
actualy, mabye not.
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How do you figure? If the beams are different colours per race - you'd think the reactors would be as well. It rather emphasises that each race uses a different power / fuel / energy / whatever to keep things ticking over.


Pfft. Yeah. Ok. The Terrans use Cold Fusion, the Vasudans use antimatter, and the shivans use subspace to power their ships... Suuure. If anything, recent Terran and Vasudan technology is a direct adaptation of whatever they captured from the Shivans during the great war.
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Offline Ulala

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These look excellent! :yes:  Y'know what would really spice things up? Some lense flares at the origins of the explosions.

*runs from the ensuing flamewar about lenseflares in space without actual lenses and about just lenseflares in general* ;)
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Pfft. Yeah. Ok. The Terrans use Cold Fusion, the Vasudans use antimatter, and the shivans use subspace to power their ships... Suuure. If anything, recent Terran and Vasudan technology is a direct adaptation of whatever they captured from the Shivans during the great war.


Exactly. That's one reason why the shielding technology shouldn't be different at all. If necessary, there would be slight modifications to terran and vasudan shielding technology (which they would share BTW) that would distinguish them from the Shivans because of constant research and experimentation. The Shivan shields shouldn't even change, because those shields have been that way for God knows how long.

As for shockwaves, I'm thinking that even visually, color coordination would be going too far. It'd just be this huge firework show that you can't even enjoy, unless you make a mission specifically for sitting there and watching it.

 

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That just doesn't look very realistic. I mean... there's no obvious reason for the shockwave to go from white to light blue and then suddenly to orange and dark red. It just doesn't seem to merge very well.
Well, to explain, the outer radius gets it's appearance from the inflamable explosions, and the inner radius gets it's appearance from the energy explosions.  There are two different elements, but in the same shockwave.  The fiery explosion wouldn't have a trail anyway, if you're using realism as an example.  The logic is that the flame will go wherever the energy force is pushing it.  I also think having two seperate shockwaves for the two seperate reactions would be unattractive, but that's just me.  Anyway, it was just a thought.
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