[Kosh]

Originally posted by MatthewPapa


Excuuuuse me.


Hehe, at least I dont live in oregon....its almost as bad as california.

Oregon has its quirks, but I would perfer it to Texas any day of the week. At least we have a somewhat functional education system.

[Liquid Fire]

This does nothing to disprove what people say about California being full of nutters. (Sorry if you're in Ca)

HEY! I live in CA and you have no right to.......
..........wait..........
Never mind. Carry on.

[Scuddie]

He's from Texas, I dont think you'd understand.  But let me offer some Texan-to-English likely translations for you.

"Texas is better than California, solely because Southern California is in California.  And as we all know, Southern California has of Mexicans."
Or
"California is mostly democrat."
Or
"I live in America, dammit!  Whooo!!!  Hail Bush, the genius from Texas!"
[/obligatory bash on Texas]

[Fenrir]

Originally posted by MatthewPapa
Hehe, at least I dont live in oregon....its almost as bad as california.

Indeed. It's got the political nuts, but at least you get an awesome climate for enduring them.

[Kosh]

"California is mostly democrat."

Time for a good old Grammer Inquisition

Actually, that would be mostly democratic

It's got the political nuts,

It at least gives Texas a run for its money.

[Scuddie]

I said it that way on purpose.

But thanks for spoiling the joke .

[Ace]

Washington state vows to "nuke" the mother****er successionists. Once I'm govenor.

We have nuclear weapons you know... but against the successionists we shall deploy our ultimate weapon: the computer virus known as Windows Vista.

[karajorma]

I say we give them Israel. That worked out so well last time

[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by Kosh

It at least gives Texas a run for its money.

No one and nothing is more ****ed up then California politics. NO ONE AND NOTHING.

[Ace]

Except for Texas

[Knight Templar]

You guys are missing the point-- Would anyone really miss South Carolina?

I didn't think so.

Furthermore, why is delta looking at Foxnews?

[Admiral LSD]

Christian Exodus (search), a California-based group, wants God to be its commander in chief.

I say let them have it, invade and when they get their asses well and truly handed to them claim it was because "God didn't protect them"

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
You guys are missing the point-- Would anyone really miss South Carolina?

I didn't think so.

Furthermore, why is delta looking at Foxnews?

Everyone needs a laugh once in a while.

[TrashMan]

what so wrong with having a 100% christianic country? Or islamic? or jewish one for that matter?

Religion isa integral part of an individual and separation of religion and state kinda doesn't make sense, since if you are a beliver, you are a beliver 100% of the time.. not only at home
You don't hang your beliefs on a hook when you go about working (if you're a giverment officail).

Some people are outright afraid of states based on religion, with no real reason to back that fear. ( bad past experience deosn't really count)

[aldo_14]

If you run a country on purely religious grounds, it's disrespectful and discriminatory against any non-believer who has to live in, enter, or deal with that country.  The individuals right to expression, democracy, etc can be easily negated by citing some appropriate interpretation of the holy book of choice - wars can be justified on the basis of perceived sins, ethnic cleansing on the basis of being against infidels.  Religion can be subverted to create a personality cult for the leader.

Just imagine how much you'd like to live in, say, Iran.  And then also consider why devout (Iranian) Muslims are more than willing leave that Islamic theocracy and claim asylum.

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by TrashMan
what so wrong with having a 100% christianic country? Or islamic? or jewish one for that matter?

Bluntly, the religion itself. It works for people willing to totally abide by the religion. But if someone doesn't abide by the religion, there's no method of changing it because by doing so you'd be perverting the religion itself from its original vision. So that person, or those people, more likely, must suffer persecution for their entire lives, or sacrifice their individuality for a semi-peaceful existence.

Having a non-religious government serves as a buffer zone of a sort; you can enact laws that most everyone agrees on, and as long as people have enough freedom, they can impose whatever restrictions on themselves that they like, while still allowing for individuals or groups of individuals who disagree with the main group to live their lives without total persecution. They might suffer some pointed glances every day, as they go to the supermarket with their seven wives and four husbands , but they probably won't have to live in constant fear of stonings.

Plus, laws can be changed and people can disagree with them while still sticking with their religion.

[pyro-manic]

"We want to use the existing apparatus [of the United States] to put us in a position to protect our liberties, but we don't want to wall ourselves off from the rest of the world," Burnell told FOX News.

So they want their own country, completely different to the US, but expect the US to stick up for them?

Trash: Look at Iran. Look at Taliban-era Afghanistan. Look at 16th-century Europe. That's the kind of mess it makes...

[Taristin]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
You guys are missing the point-- Would anyone really miss South Carolina?
 

No way in Hell I'd want to drive through it on a trip to Florida, and damned be I if I have to circumnavigate the stupid podunk state.

[EtherShock]

That's why I fly to Florida Raa.

[Nico]

Originally posted by TrashMan
Religion isa integral part of an individual and separation of religion and state kinda doesn't make sense, since if you are a beliver, you are a beliver 100% of the time.. not only at home
You don't hang your beliefs on a hook when you go about working (if you're a giverment officail).

What the hell are you on? State/religion separation is about not having political religions based on religious belief, it has nothing to do with people's faith. There's very christian people in the french gvt, but religion has no say in political decisions here, and it's all the better, in a country where christianism is hardly the only religion about.
State/Religion separation is one of the things I'm proud of concerning my country's history.