[Kazan]

Who is elected could very well mean the difference between eating and not eating, getting a job or not getting and job and so on.

it means that here too in a very real way depsite the claims of some people.

[mikhael]

Not for the majority, however.

Not yet, anyway.

[Kazan]

Originally posted by mikhael
Not yet, anyway.

[mikhael]

Yeah, but the (rapidly shrinking) middle class hasn't started starving yet, right? Until that happens, why would they care? That's the problem with middle class: we've got complacency raised to a fine art form.

Well that's not entirely true. We're all loud and vocal and noisy, until it matters (like actually getting off our asses and voting) and then we're all about Olympic gold-medal, record-setting levels of complacency (or outright laziness).

[Kazan]

yeah we also have a penchant for selfishness, authoritarianism, legislating religion and generally being a bunch of asshats while simultaneously trying to claim to be the most free country in the world

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Rictor
so people don't bother to knock their heads against wheat they percieve to be a brick wall.

Which further proves how stupid people are since the number of people who don't vote at all are always higher than the number who do vote.

[mikhael]

[python]
Come see the hypocrisy inherent in the system!
[/python]

[ZylonBane]

[Kazan]

nice ZB

[phreak]

voting with ballots is retarded

my voting equipment:



(not me in the pic)

ok guys its time to post your favorite pictures of guns/airplanes/tanks/warships/fuzzy animals.

[Kazan]

Code: [Select]


//no



(aka "no comment")

[Ford Prefect]

[Corsair]

[Kazan]

I Agree with Corsair

[Goober5000]

Hooray for pancakes!


More on-topic: Hooray for the public school system.

[MatthewPapa]

[EtherShock]

*Makes foolish attempt to save thread*

Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
Yes. Yes, we are.

Note: When I say we, I don't include myself in that, and hence, actually mean "They."

Originally posted by Kazan
and peolpe wonder why we have such a tard in office

Originally posted by Rictor
What the US and much of Europe have is high living stanards and a stable democracy, which has led to complacency on the part of the population. In the US, regardless of who wins the election, jack-booted stormtroopers aren't going to bust down your door at 3am and haul you off, so people think (justifiably) that they don't really have to bother. That's one part. The other is that the current system (the two parties, as well as rule by special interests and widespread corruption) are seen as too entrenched, so people don't bother to knock their heads against wheat they percieve to be a brick wall.

Don't forget, the people in office only care about what the people 40 and over think.

Originally posted by karajorma


Which further proves how stupid people are since the number of people who don't vote at all are always higher than the number who do vote.

And the majority of those that do vote are 40 or over.

Mmmmmm...syrupy pancakey goodness. Goob, those pancakes look really good. Please stop that. You're making me hungry. You won't like me when I'm hungry.

[Rictor]

Actually, a short term answer could very well be to funnel several hundred million dollars to the US Communist and Fascist parties, give people a real scare. Remember when La Pen was almost voted in, how freaked out people became?

Of course, that doesn't address the long term problem, but that's a social problem and has to be address in more fundamental and far-reaching ways.

[Kazan]

rictor that would completely backfire and just make things worse in the worst possible manner.

[Genryu]

That's Le Pen, and you got that right. I pesonally wasn't in France at this exact moment (was at some research lab in England for the endterm). Got the habit of checking the french newspapers on the web. The other intenrs were kinda freaked ou by the healthy 'WTF ?!?' I let out seeing this.