[Mefustae]

Yes, it's also one of the most phallus-live ships ever to grace FS2...

[DarthWang]

You just have a dirty mind

[NGTM-1R]

The Shiamak isn't phallic, and if it is to you I urge you to see a doctor now. It's...y'know, bent. Though now that you mention it, the Lucifer is phallic.

[DarthWang]

Of course, that's hypocritical considering my name

[Mefustae]

Originally posted by ngtm1r
Though now that you mention it, the Lucifer is phallic.

Now that is reason to see a doctor! But seriously, I saw one of those stupid 'crazy TV shows from other countries' things on TV (I believe it was Channel 4) while I was in England a few years ago, and they showed this news-report from Paraguay, or Venezuala or some dang place where a guy did have a...wing-dang-doodle...that apparently resembled Lucy somewhat...and by that i mean, he literally needed two hands to take a piss...

...now, enough doodle-talk, back to...uh...what were we talking about again...?

[Boomer]

I feel that the Lucifer expresses the "Shivan" identity better than any other ship.  Think about it.  A ship the size of an Orion, yet, it can tear a planet too pieces.  It was the pinnacle of shivan design, and a key figure of FS1.  As such, I feel that it is the most credible design on which to base analysis of shivan ship design.

@Singh: lol  I can top that!

Officer on Orion destroyer:  Enemy cain destroyed, wait, another jumped in!

Captain:  Another?  Jesus, I hate these things not worth the()*_*

*Blasted to smithereens by Lilith LRed

[Gregster2k]

What would be seriously cool is if someone made a Lucifer style Shivan ship segmented in a way that it could separate Star Trek style and have the individual pieces chase after you >;]

[Mav]

@Gregster: Use multi-docking + some SEXPs??? Nice idea.
(I once thought of an advanced version of the Mara that could separate some of it's spikes like that and use them as drones, but it'd loose some maneuverability/speed without them)

Personally, I too think there are two kinds of Shivan designs, though both of them seem to share the "insect"-look - Scorpion and Lucy included. The Dragon looks nearly Terran, I'd say though.
I much prefer the "evil high-tech"-look from FS1 (Basilisk, Lilith, Lucy, Dragon, Nephilim and some others).

And if you like the Lucy, try LS' "green Lucifer"-glowmaps - they're absolutely stunning!   ( <- this is supposed to be a happy Shivan... )

And speaking of creating ships based off the Lilith/Cain - I have one WIP of a fighter somewhere... sadly my mods are only evolving very slowly.
Just a few days ago I started working again on a Shivan bomber model which I could'nt make heads or tails of for a while (started it somewhere in late 2001 or early 2002 I think... and it went comatous some months after ).

[Flipside]

The Shivan ships are very Dante-esque to my mind, theres a lot of beetle in there, but with strange asymetrical 'lumps' that make them look malformed. Some of them give a Skeletal feel to them as well, which adds to the eerieness.
I still think the Shivans could be made a lot more eerie feeling by looking at their sound effects etc, I'm not too fond of their current 'Knight Industries 2000' engine noise

[kingdragon]

The SB Vindychaal is the most evil craft to fly against.

I was stupid enough to attack it from the front.

The beam tore up my hull bad!

[aldo_14]

You searched for an 8 month old thread to post that?

[Galemp]

*golf clap*

[Turambar]

lol, you made it send me an email alert

[Kosh]

I don't think I ever got around to reading this thread before.

[Getter Robo G]

Least now it got my attention....

@Gregster2k, damn it... Now you inspired me for a "Battle of the Planets" style monster (for FS2 Robot Wars) Like a chinese dragon with like 20 figher segments as main body, a tail ship and a head mothership... - Roar...

Now just need someone to actually make it...

[Mars]

 

You can clearly see that, in the Freespace1 incursion, the Shivan armada was at that time undergoing a generational advance technologically, and by that i mean:

I'd have to disagree with that, there simply isn't enough information to prove the Shivans have more adanced technology now than they used to. I personally always figured the "first generation designs" were subspace-worthy enough to get through some of the unstable jump nodes and Ross 128 and Ikeya, while the "generation 2 designs" required a stable node- such as the Knossos jump node, to get through, and that most beam cannons interfere with subspace.

[WMCoolmon]

I think that's the best excuse that I've heard of for why the Shivans didn't have beam cannons (except on the Lucifer) in FS1.

[Mars]

Why thank ya.

[Nuke]

shivan enough for you

[ToecrusherHammerjaw]

Ah, the Dante.  One of my faves.