[achtung]

People are shooting at the rescuers.


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050901/ap_on_re_us/katrina_superdome_evacuation_hk1

[Bobboau]

you know I was just thinking this morning, that NO might turn into a lawless hell hole run by war lords and guns, they can't make order down there with the city flooded like that and they can't fix the flooding without order, so all it'll take is a few people with the inititive to get some guns, find some boats and declair them selves king.

[karajorma]

Someone really needs to tell those people that the place they are staying in is called the Superdome NOT Thunderdome

[NGTM-1R]

Well, they can shoot at the rescuers, but the rescuers might shoot back...and they have bigger guns...

The Navy has an LHD and the Tarawa Amphibous Ready Group assisting the rescue work with their amphib craft and helos, and last I checked the Army and National Guard were also assisting with helicopter units. Maybe it's just me, but shooting at the military doesn't seem like a good idea.

[Unknown Target]

They would only shoot back if someone was about five feet away and pointing a gun right at their face. If they start shooting back, then people have a reason to shoot at them, no one trusts them, they get attacked, and it all goes to hell.


But geeze, I mean...I dunno, maybe it's because I'm from a small community who's used to having hurricanes hit us, but I don't understand how people can behave like this. I mean, they're shooting at their rescuers because they're not being rescued right away. Literally, I read something on Yahoo news, where people who shot at the helicopters and stuff were screaming "Come get my family."
Maybe it's just my personality, but if I was down there and I was in trouble, and the rescuers were busy evacuating others, I'd find a place, get some food and water, and just WAIT my ass out. I wouldn't start looting or shooting or fighting. Hell, find a nice apartment in one of the high rises, get some non-spoilables, and just sit and wait.
It's probably a lot harder than that, but that's what I don't understand - why aren't people trying? Why do they instead sit on a lawn next to all the dead and ***** and moan about the fact that there are more people in trouble, and they might just not be on everyone's mind right now? I know that they were promised help, but if that doesn't come, then find a way to make things work and do it without hurting others.
And another thing! Stop *****ing about the power people! OH MY ****ING GOD I DON'T HAVE POWER!!!!1111  Guess what? Every week or so I get power cut out for a day. When hurricanes hit here, even minor ones like a category three - we don't have power for weeks! To top that off, all our power lines are above ground, so fwoosh, they're gone, we have to erect new poles! We manage to get by just fine, we don't suddenly start melting or something if we don't have power. Oh my God, you're not going to have a shower or a fridge for some while. You know how we wash without power? Get a gallon jug, fill it up with some fresh water if you can, go outside, hang it up, and turn it upside down. That's how you take a shower.

Ugh, really shows the ugly side of the United States: unless it's war, we really don't pull together at all, and it's every man for themselves.

//rant over.

[ChronoReverse]

It's not so much Americans as a character flaw in the majority of humanity itself.  If people feel that they can get away with something, they will do it.

[karajorma]

I don't know. I don't think I've ever heard of a case like this where people who weren't in immenent danger fired on their would be saviors.

I can understand people storming a rescue ship or the like when they are in danger of dying but these people seem to be doing it just cause they've missed todays meal and are annoyed that they aren't sitting somewhere warm watching COPS.

[Fragrag]

Originally posted by Bobboau
you know I was just thinking this morning, that NO might turn into a lawless hell hole run by war lords and guns, they can't make order down there with the city flooded like that and they can't fix the flooding without order, so all it'll take is a few people with the inititive to get some guns, find some boats and declair them selves king.

Why does this remind me so much of Escape from LA?

[achtung]

Originally posted by Bobboau
you know I was just thinking this morning, that NO might turn into a lawless hell hole run by war lords and guns, they can't make order down there with the city flooded like that and they can't fix the flooding without order, so all it'll take is a few people with the inititive to get some guns, find some boats and declair them selves king.

Well it's happening, sort of

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050901/ap_on_re_us/hurricane_katrina_36

[Bobboau]

Bush:"my fellow Americans, with this great tragity looming over us, we are faced with many difucult choices, and many hard ships, but fear not, for I have a plan!
you see I was watching John Carpenters: Escape From L.A. this morning..."

[BlackDove]

Man that movie was great.

I need to go watch that.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Ace Pace


A bloody OIL RIG got smashed there.

Those things are wedded to the ground and it got picked up from the gulf and carried into NO.

Actually, that's not in New Orleans. It's along Mobile River, Alabama.

And lookie what I found:

[achtung]

Originally posted by Sandwich


Actually, that's not in New Orleans. It's along Mobile River, Alabama.

And lookie what I found:

What is it?

[StratComm]

Originally posted by Sandwich
Actually, that's not in New Orleans. It's along Mobile River, Alabama.

And, it came from a shipyard and not somewhere out in the gulf.

[Drew]

this a quote from another article



Just last year, the Army Corps of Engineers sought $105 million for hurricane and flood programs in New Orleans. The White House slashed the request to about $40 million. Congress finally approved $42.2 million, less than half of the agency's request.

Yet the lawmakers and Bush agreed to a $286.4 billion pork-laden highway bill that included more than 6,000 pet projects for lawmakers. Congress spent money on dust control for Arkansas roads, a warehouse on the Erie Canal and a $231 million bridge to a small, uninhabited Alaskan island.

How could Washington spend $231 million on a bridge to nowhere - and not find $42 million for hurricane and flood projects in New Orleans? It's a matter of power and politics.

[Sandwich]

Oh. My. Soul.

There's a web hosting company in the middle of NO that's still online.

They have a fiber-optic connection buried underground and still intact, as well as a diesel generator for power.

And - get this - an ongoing, on the scene blog. Horrific reading, so if you don't want to get depressed, don't read it. If you want to, start here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/2005/08/28/

[Janos]

Originally posted by Sandwich
Oh. My. Soul.

There's a web hosting company in the middle of NO that's still online.

They have a fiber-optic connection buried underground and still intact, as well as a diesel generator for power.

And - get this - an ongoing, on the scene blog. Horrific reading, so if you don't want to get depressed, don't read it. If you want to, start here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/2005/08/28/

Their heroic fighting kept Something Awful online till... yesterday, I think.
Interdictor's blog is unbelievable, those guys are actually doing at least something.

[ShadowWolf_IH]

I'm not from New Orleans, nor do i live in the hurricane zone, but i did run from it all the wya to florida...what a great time to move.....lol

I moved last sunday, i was going down interstate 10 while she was coming ashore.

[Sandwich]

Florida, eww. What in the world did you move into God's Bowling Alley™ for?

[ShadowWolf_IH]

surfing and racing...what else?