[MrBig101]

Is there somewhere I could go that shows me every single ship in FS2?

I'm kind of bored and would like to see the ships.

Oh, I also have a question about fred.  (The FS1 Version)

Whenever I overload the ship count (like 60 ships or something like that), eventually when I get to a certain number, it crashes.  Why is that?

[Axem]

The ship thing can only really be done if you have the SCP. If you do, great! If not, there's still a way to do that.

There's two ways to do that. A sorta-cheat in the tech room, and WMCoolmon's Lab.

In the Tech Room, press CTRL+SHIFT+S which will unlock every ship in the ships.tbl. This resets itself when you go away and come back to it though.

The Lab is a bit different, but offers a larger view of the ships and you can temporarily modify their stats. On the main menu (where you choose where you want to go), hit F3 and you should come to a black screen with some options at the top. The ships classes will allow you to select ship models to view. The other options will allow you to do other things like read the tech description, or mess around with their stats.

The way you can do it without the SCP is to go into FRED and make a mission that gives you all descriptions of the ships. But that can be a bit tedious, because you have to add each one, one by one.

For your FRED1 problem, it sounds like you hit the limit of ships that FRED will accept. I've never really played with that FRED so that's just a guess. Maybe someone who's used it can tell you what the problem is.

[CP5670]

The FRED thing is due to a limit on the size of the ships.tbl file. You can greatly reduce this size by removing all the comments and extra spaces, but if you're still having issues then that's probably as high as it will go. Retail FRED2 also has this issue, but the filesize limits were bumped in FRED2 open.

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by CP5670
The FRED thing is due to a limit on the size of the ships.tbl file. You can greatly reduce this size by removing all the comments and extra spaces, but if you're still having issues then that's probably as high as it will go.

Stripping the comments will work to some extent, but the ships.tbl limit is still 75 in FS1 and 130 in FS2.

As for the number of ships in a single mission, I don't know that offhand.  There is a limit, though.

[karajorma]

It's cause U R A MORON!

No I'm not being insulting. That's what FRED2 sometimes calls a ship if you try doing the same thing

[Singh]

hmmmm......perhaps an excuse to continue something atrocious in nature

[Roanoke]

Originally posted by karajorma
It's cause U R A MORON!

No I'm not being insulting. That's what FRED2 sometimes calls a ship if you try doing the same thing

I got that on time even though there was only about 2 dozen ships in total . I didn't know what the hell to make of it.

[karajorma]

You can also get it by placing a ship which by default will be given the same name as a ship that already exists or something like that. I've only ever managed to get it once and I can't quite remember how I did it

[aldo_14]

You need to act more moronically.

Or is that 'act moronicall-er'?

[MrBig101]

I am so freaking confused right now................ lmao.

Well, hopefully when fred2 is up and running that I can put a bit more ships into my missions .

Battle of endor syndrome has me!  That was an awesome battle (the space one anyway).