[aldo_14]

Which one?

[Descenterace]

I swear, if the question of teaching Creationism alongside Evolution in English schools ever comes up, I'm going to devise a thoroughly ridiculous Theory of Origin, register it as an official religion, then campaign for it to be taught on an equal basis with Creationism.

You can hold me to that.

[Janos]

Originally posted by Descenterace
I swear, if the question of teaching Creationism alongside Evolution in English schools ever comes up, I'm going to devise a thoroughly ridiculous Theory of Origin, register it as an official religion, then campaign for it to be taught on an equal basis with Creationism.

You can hold me to that.

http://www.venganza.org/

PRAISE THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER

[karajorma]

You know what worries me about the Spaghetti Monster is that someone, somewhere is taking it seriously. Given the number of nutcase theries on the net there's bound to be at least one person who truely believes in it.

[StratComm]

Better that than Scientology

[TrashMan]

Are you sure?

At least in Sceientology there the great empeoror Zarax(or whatever)...but this is a pile of spaghetti!

[aldo_14]

At least we know spaghetti exists.

All bless His Noodly Appendage!

[Ace]

Yeah, spaghetti is also tastier than Evil Alien Overlord Zenu(tm).

[Bobboau]

to be fair, that article is a bit biased, the real ratio is closer to 50/50, Americans are overwlmingly a very religious group, but most of us (slightly) are able to keep the world of religion and reality apart, the 26% figure posted there is basicly the percentage of people who beleive in an atheist world, this is the percentage of atheist to slightly religious (don't want to accept that they will in fact die when they die, but otherwise inteligent) people.

now that said, 50% is still a fcuking scarey number.

[Ace]

Honestly I'm surprised that 26% in the US are pretty much solid atheists.

I estimated the figure to be around 12% and I'm in one of the most secular states.

Considering the ground being gained by such a worldview, it's no surprise why the fundamentalists are so vocal.

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Wild Fragaria


And if you think of the number of children from just two people and think of them mate with each other to start the colony *chill*  scary.

but wait, it gets worse, if you take the bible literally, since adam was made from dirt in god's image, that'd make adam a golem, and since eve was made from a rib extracted from adam, that'd make Eve a clone of a golem...


now you do the math.

[Bobboau]

religous people also tend to have more kids, consitering we beleive in evolution and they don't makes this is sepecaly sad.

[LtNarol]

Call me a godless commie, but if 'god' created the world, then 'He' really ****ed up.

[aldo_14]

You Godless Commie!

[Mongoose]

Originally posted by LtNarol
Call me a godless commie, but if 'god' created the world, then 'He' really ****ed up.

You could just as easily say that we ****ed up His world. And x2 on the godless commie comment.

Anyway, those numbers seem a little bit skewed in the extreme direction.  I've never put much faith in random surveys; as "balanced" as they claim to make them, you're still trying to extrapolate the opinions of hundreds of millions of people from the opinion of 1000 or so.  Something's going to get lost in translation no matter what you do.  While I'm sure there are many people in this country that subscribe to each of the beliefs in that study, I doubt that the results are as bizarre as that; I'm sure you would get something similar if you went to many other countries, as well.

[Janos]

Originally posted by Mongoose

You could just as easily say that we ****ed up His world. And x2 on the godless commie comment.

Anyway, those numbers seem a little bit skewed in the extreme direction.  I've never put much faith in random surveys; as "balanced" as they claim to make them, you're still trying to extrapolate the opinions of hundreds of millions of people from the opinion of 1000 or so.  Something's going to get lost in translation no matter what you do.  While I'm sure there are many people in this country that subscribe to each of the beliefs in that study, I doubt that the results are as bizarre as that; I'm sure you would get something similar if you went to many other countries, as well.

It's Pew.

Also, you can read the entire article here. Be warned, it's longer and more complicated than you propably think
There's also one pretty interesting snippet which sheds some light on this:
66% of people believe various lifeforms have evolved over time. 20% of people believe they have evolved through intelligent designer, 40% believe the lifeforms evolved through natural selection, 6% have no idea. Oh yes, and 27% are apparently young earth creationists who believe no lifeforms have evolved. 7% have no idea of anything at all.
It's 40% classic natural selection vs. 47% of different creationistic worldviews. 13% don't, you know, man, like, care, man.

[LtNarol]

Originally posted by Mongoose
You could just as easily say that we ****ed up His world. And x2 on the godless commie comment.

'Tis true, but if that were the case, then he ****ed up when he made us.

[Ace]

I am wondering how a perfect, all-powerful, creator could create an imperfect creation even with the wildcard of free will. Because wouldn't the ability of free will to create imperfect beings thus make free will imperfect? Thus if free will is imperfect how could a perfect creator have it? Meaning that a perfect creator thus has no free will and is thus not all-powerful.

Considering the paradoxical nature of such an entity, the universe is a better place without it

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Ace
I am wondering how a perfect, all-powerful, creator could create an imperfect creation even with the wildcard of free will. Because wouldn't the ability of free will to create imperfect beings thus make free will imperfect? Thus if free will is imperfect how could a perfect creator have it? Meaning that a perfect creator thus has no free will and is thus not all-powerful.

Considering the paradoxical nature of such an entity, the universe is a better place without it

god didn't create us to be perfect, he created us for two reasons:
1) for the ego trip, and 2) he has a vindictive sense of humor, which would explain reality television.

[Ace]

or 3) He's an emo and wanted to create something he could whine about since life was too pleasant

"Ohh... man life sucks even more... they have nuclear weapons... damn..."