[Deepblue]

New Madden '06 screens:



Seems th'screen PA used was a very, very early build. Though this build seems t'have some bad geometry an' texture wrapping. I still hope EA gets pounded by 2ks new rumored football game.

[karajorma]

And how have you got any proof whatsoever that this is an in-game shot as opposed to yet another bullshot?

[Deepblue]

EA said the other was conceptual video. They say this is an actual screen.

[Ace]

All of these polygons wasted on sweaty, hairy, men.

I, as Emporer of the Universe, demand this to be made into a hot, scantly clad women's football game.

[aldo_14]

New bullshot!

Actually, it occurs to me just how completely inane and pointless having high res jersey textures is.  You will never, ever, zoom in that close on a proper game, after all.  Likewise, the faces aren't all that impressive for similar reasons (plus, they're probably the high-poly ones created for close up views like cutaways - where most of the players are strategically positioned too far away to notice; they've been using that trick for about 6 years now).

So it's not really gobsmacking, or anything.  A straight standard evolvement, I guess; about what I'd expect from (for example) the shots of the Unreal 3 engine, for example; I'd expect at 'game' range (i.e. the zoomout where it is playable), it'd be the same as the previous shots, and it'll lod in higher res maps and higher poly models when in close for replays, or perhaps subs, or whatever pullaver goes on in American Football.

 Although if that crowd is all 3d mapped & animated peeps - I will be impressed.

It does, though, nicely illustrate how complete bollocks EAs original ads were.  I believe the quote was '60-second preview of the photo-realistic graphics and heart-pounding football intensity that is the essence of Madden NFL football' for that.

[Deepblue]

In addition, since it be on th'same topic that th'PA strip brings up, here are some truly impressive screens courtesy o' Epic.





Hell yeah.

[Deepblue]

Originally posted by aldo_14
New bullshot!

Actually, it occurs t'me just how completely inane an' pointless havin' high res jersey textures is.  You will never, ever, zoom in that close on a proper game, after all.  Likewise, th'faces ain't all that impressive for similar reasons (plus, they're probably th'high-poly ones created for close up views like cutaways - where most o' th'players are strategically positioned too far away t'notice; they've been usin' that trick for about 6 years now).

So it's not really gobsmacking, or anything.  A straight standard evolvement, I guess; about what I'd expect from (for example) th'shots o' th'Unreal 3 engine, for example; I'd expect at 'game' range (i.e. th'zoomout where it be playable), it'd be th'same as th'previous shots, an' it'll lod in higher res maps an' higher poly models when in close for replays, or perhaps subs, or whatever pullaver goes on in American Football.

 Although an that crowd be all 3d mapped & animated peeps - I will be impressed.

It does, though, nicely illustrate how complete bollocks EAs original ads were.  I believe th'quote was '60-second preview o' th'photo-realistic graphics an' heart-poundin' football intensity that be th'essence o' Madden NFL football' for that.

I agree with this assessment.

[aldo_14]

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3970977110921633.JPG

There's something very odd about the blood on that.  I'm not sure what, but it looks just...odd. I can't place it, though.

Of course, Epic are about the most reliable in terms of actual proper screenshots (for the one thing, they were the only people to have IIRC Unreal3 working on both X360 and PS3 devkits during E3), so I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt anyways.

IMO at the moment GoW is probably the best looking next gen game; it's just a shame about Epics apparent big metal crotchguard fetish. Someone at bluesnews put up a comparison of GoW and MG4, IIRC; it's 404 now (natch), but it's pretty much a dead heat between the two.  The MG4 background textures were IMO a wee bit sharper (assuming relative depth-of-field effects), but the artistic differences kind of makes it impossible to make a genuine differntiation.  

Albeit I still feel less and less likely each day to buy one of the new consoles; I've never seen any gameplay variation, despite the spangliness.  And there's the whole content creation thing, lengthening dev times - I know one of the PS3 studios was claiming they'd soon be able to use movie cgi assets for games licenses, but I can't see that happening myself till at least 1 more generation down the line.

[Deepblue]

Originally posted by aldo_14
http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3970977110921633.JPG

There's somethin' very odd about th'blood on that.  I'm not sure what, but it looks just...odd. I can't place it, though.

Of course, Epic are about th'most reliable in terms o' actual proper screenshots (for th'one thing, they were th'only people t'have IIRC Unreal3 workin' on both X360 an' PS3 devkits durin' E3), so I'm inclined t'give them th'benefit o' th'doubt anyways.

IMO at th'moment GoW be probably th'best lookin' next gen game; it's just a shame about Epics apparent big metal crotchguard fetish. Someone at bluesnews put up a comparison o' GoW an' MG4, IIRC; it's 404 now (natch), but it's pretty much a dead heat amidst th'two.  The MG4 background textures were IMO a wee bit sharper (assumin' relative depth-of-field effects), but th'artistic differences kind o' makes it impossible t'make a genuine differntiation.  

Albeit I still feel less an' less likely each day t'buy one o' th'new consoles; I've never seen any gameplay variation, despite th'spangliness.  And there's th'whole content creation thing, lengthenin' dev times - I know one o' th'PS3 studios was claimin' they'd soon be able t'use movie cgi assets for games licenses, but I can't see that happenin' myself till at least 1 more generation down th'line.

1. Ah, but the comparison shot used an alpha build of GoW. I guess that is fair because it would seem that MGS4 is in alpha too. But anyway, the new shots look much better.
2. I agree with Epics fetish with uber buff people.
3. Watch some gameplay videos for GoW. It is possibly the most cinematic shooter I have ever seen.

[Mongoose]

Madden's supreme level of suckage has nothing to do with its graphics

[Unknown Target]

You know, rather than sitting at home playing ultra-realistic football simulations, people could...you know...go out and, like, play them for real or something. I dunno...

[BlackDove]

Originally posted by aldo_14
IMO at th'moment GoW be probably th'best lookin' next gen game

Actually I'm of firm belieft MGS holds that torch, but then again I'm a fanboi.

[Deepblue]

MGS is still too far in the early stages to hold that title. It still lacks the advanced shadowing that GoW has and really lacks complete textures. This is especially evident in Snakes suit. Still, that's not saying that it won't look better when completed.

[achtung]

Originally posted by Ace
All o' these polygons wasted on sweaty, hairy, men.

I, as Emporer o' th'Universe, demand this t'be made into a hot, scantly clad women's football game.

Aye, matey!

[Night Hammer]

there somthin that doesnt look right about that Madden shot, almost cartoonish

[StratComm]

Probably that an EA doesn't start actually payin' attention t'the people they are puttin' in th'stands then th'entire game's presentation will be undone by their contrast alone.  There are a few things that are a little CG still, like faces from what I can see (and the over-reflectivness of the helmets) but the thing that really looks stupid are the 2d-fan animatics.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
You know, rather than sittin' at t'port playin' ultra-realistic football simulations, people could...you know...go out and, like, play them for real or something. I dunno...

I don't happen to have 2 dozen hairy sweaty men at my beck and call all hours of the day to play sports whenever I want. If you do more power to you then.