Originally posted by TrashMan
All sit in the Human category too. Should I be ashamed I'm human. Category is irrelevant...I'm with the Pope, not those f***tards
But no that scale of measurement (however much value you put on it), the Pope is (was) himself verging on that category. So if you seek to associate yourself with the Pope, then you associate his, yours and Stalin, etc, with their relative positions.
Originally posted by TrashMan
There's a big difference between me and them - tehy were lunatics.
Part of my belief is that I I'm not allowed to harm ANYONE.
Um..I'm going to try and phrase this in a way so as to not get in an arguement, because TBH I can't be bothered justnow
Anyways... your definition of harm is subjective. Take, for example, that whole CCTV arguement a while back; you didn't consider it harmful to violate civil liberties (likewise the profiling stage). I disagreed. Now, there is no method to determine who is right in that; so the definition of what causes harm is really down to what you believe is acceptable in terms of your aims.
The Pope(ok, the Catholic church if you wish to abstract responsibility) believed that stopping people using condoms was more important than stopping the spread of aids using 'non catholic' methods like barrier contraception. The church was prepared to lie, for example, about the efficacy of condoms versus the aids virus. The Catholic church would say this was not harmful; I would differ. I would guess that our relative opinions on the harmfulness of this strategem will lead to my opinion of the Pope being substantially worse than your own.
Wholly subjective thing, right and wrong, harmless and harmful. You can judge that within the totalitarian grouping, it is not what forms the right and wrong, but the conviction and actions taken towards that matter most. It's dangerous to dismiss the likes of Hitler and stalin as simple lunatics though; the seeds of bigotry, power lust, etc are within all of us, after all.
