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Offline Singh

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Just a note, there have been several instances where i've jumped out a minute too early (ie. before the other capships have jumped), namely as the "Jump Out" objective came up, and then i'd get the failure debriefing; 'You didn't do what you were told, so everybody died...' (not exactly the most creative debriefings known to man :p)...

...Here's the thing though, even with that failure debriefing, you can still advance to the next mission unhindered. Of course, i'm not complaining, as it's saved me from having to do an entire mission again after completing it just for jumping out seconds too early. But still, something you should look in on...

...This bug applies to both chapters 1 & 2...

EDIT: Hmmm...this actually applies to all forms of failure. No matter how badly one fails in a mission, one can always proceed to the next...

EDIT2: Just got around to finishing it, and i've gotta say, that was a quality campaign. A good cliffhanger ending to keep us enthrawled until the next chapter is released, for which I for one will be waiting in anticipation. Nice work! :yes:


GAH! I thought I had fixed this bug, as well as the music not playing one (that was related to a .tbl error). Looks like the advancement bug fix went out when the campiagn file got corrupted!

I'm re-uploading it (again! :( ) in a few minutes once I fix it up properly.
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Offline Singh

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Ah **** this!

I can't get the campiagn editor to even work! Every time I try setting the branch to go to the next mission upon completion of the mission objectives, it complains at me that the last branch for the mission isn't set to true, despite it being so! Worst still is that hte ONLY build that WORKS without corrupting my campiagn file keeps on having the editor hang at random!!

GRRRR!!! Stupid FRED2!!
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Offline FireCrack

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It looks awesome! But the highlights gonna knock off my erynies, wich you are not using (heathen).


In all seriousness though, this looks amazing, but i wont have my freespace-playing equipment until around december, mabye not even then, mabye not until may.
actualy, mabye not.
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3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 59230781640628620899862803482534211706...
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Offline Singh

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Thanks everyone. Glad to know you enjoyed it.

Chapter 3 should take a while before coming out though - its going to be from an entirely different viewpoint alltogether, so in essence im starting from scratch plot-wise.

Anyways, the files have been reuploaded and the list of fixes is as below:
Music.tbl fixed - mission 05 should play properly now.
Campaign file fix - missions should restart if you fail objectives or AWOL
Missions fix - changed the head ani for the Julius to match Chapter 1's (surprised nobody picked up on that)
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"Cursed be the FREDder that trusts FRED2_Open."
Dreamed of much, accomplished little. :(

 

Offline Kie99

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What a fricking ending. :yes: I know how Lt. Ash felt now.
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Offline Mefustae

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What a fricking ending. :yes: I know how Lt. Ash felt now.
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Not to mention being in the same ballpark as those poor bastards in Kappa Wing
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Offline Kie99

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But the Lucifer even looked the same, unusually long and large opening of subspace portal, then the slow realisation of what is in front of you.
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Offline Fenrir

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Well, I just finished playing through parts one and two and I quite enjoyed it. I'll definitely be looking forward to the next chapter.

 I absolutely loved your choice of music for level four of part two (I still need to play with the updated download to hear level five's).

Spoiler:
On the subject of level five, dozens of bombers + maxim cannon + subspace mission = lots of fun. :devil:

 

Offline Kosh

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When the hull integrity of the Lilith in the second missions drops below 40%, it always crashes. I can't get past that point. :(
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Brain I/O error
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Offline Singh

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Kosh: its probably a 3.6.7. error - the same thing happened to me, but I switched over to an older build.
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Offline Kie99

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Have you dowloaded the new .fc2 file?  You should.
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Offline Singh

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It was tested THOUROUGHLY before release. As thouroughly as one man could. However due to SCP errors, the initial, PROPER campign file got corrupted after which I had to recreate everything all over again!

If you are using 3.6.7, then its probably that. MANY times the campiagn refused to work properly using 3.6.7. Try using ANY older build that worked last time around - it WILL work with Desperaton Chapter 2, hell, it should work properly even with retail i think (well, perhaps not).

The .fc2 files aren't updated - only the main files have been (no time to upload) but will be updated in the next few minutes (actually you can start downloading it now already) and it should be 5kb or 8kb, depending on which ones your playing.

I'lll add an edit in the first post saying NOT to use 3.6.7. as a fair warning.
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Offline Singh

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Ive had a look at it in FRED2 and the campiagn editor. I can't see any reason why it shouldn't go through at all. I just played through the entire campiagn using the file and It went through ok.

I'm at a loss as to why it isn't working. :/

Just in case though, i've updated the .fc2 files again. Try it out and if it STILL doesn't work, the opinion of osme of the FRED masters might be needed :/
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RELEASE: Desperation Chapter 2
Depths Of The Abyss is the second mission of Part 2, isn't it? Funnily enough, with the updated .fc2 file I was fine until I hit that mission. But that mission ALWAYS CTDs me, usually during the first wave of bombers, although I got through to the second wave once before FS2 barfed. WTF?! :wtf: Looks like some bizarre 3.67 issue, but if High Max isn't having any joy then it may be some kind of general SCP problem, but in that case why isn't it affecting all users?! Sadly, that's all I can add for now - PC with FS2 went boom just after this happened (unrelated issue) and my old PC is so unstable playing most games I'd probably get lots of CTDs that were NOT FS2's fault at all...

 

Offline Singh

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Solitaire: Its definately 3.6.7.

I crashed using 3.6.7. on that mision, as well as the fifth mission of chapter two. I dont know WHY it does that, but it just does.

High max: as long as the Julius departs alive, the mission will go through, regardless of what else happens. You are forced-jump out ONLY if the Julius dies, but thats about it.

The mission objectives are to protect the Julius and the other is to destroy bombers. To advance onto the next mission, you only need to protect the Julius.

I dont know WHY it isn't working. I just ran through the entire thing perfectly fine. It can't be the BoE syndrome either, sicne Mission 5 has double the number of fighters and it ran perfectly fine. It definately ISN'T the mission though, since it was the most heavily tested one (mostly due to dialogue changes) of the entire lot.

Ill PM Karajoma regarding this, perhaps he will have a better idea. Do both of you mind posting your PC stats here, so that I may go ahead and mantis the bug or at least report it?
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Offline Fenrir

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I played through this campaign with hardly any trouble at all (just the thing with the music not playing for mission 5 of part 2) on 3.6.7... and I didn't have to use any of the posted .fc2 files either since there's already one in the campaign's .vp.

 

Offline Alpha0

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I hit the same problem as High Max on "Depths of the Abyss".  On the .fc2 file that I downloaded from this thread (Ch1+Ch2), there appears to be a logical error in the conditional check for proceeding to the next mission, after Desperation-C202. Basically, if you open up the campaign file, around line 183, you will see that it checks whether the goal named "Guard" is false or the goal named "Destroy" is true. It will make you fail the mission if any of these is the case. This means that if you destroy the enemy fighter wings, "Destroy" becomes true and you fail because of that. Basically, you fail for completing a primary objective. Try changing manually (e.g. using Notepad) line 183 of Desperation.fc2 from
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183-> is-previous-goal-true
            "DesperationC202.fs2"
            "Destroy"
              (true)
to
183-> is-previous-goal-false
            "DesperationC202.fs2"
            "Destroy"
;             (true)      <----- I don't think this is really needed.

It worked for me, hope it helps others too.

 

Offline Singh

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wtf O_o

My campaign file showed it as false.

Grrr....stupid FRED.

Anyways, ill edit it in notepad and re-upload everything.

The music should be playing in Mission 05. I just uploaded the .vps with the correct .tbl file.

I'm starting to not like this incarnation of FS2 Open :(
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Offline Mongoose

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Sorry to throw in another bug confirmation, but I also experienced the problem with mission 3 of part 1 continuously re-looping.  This is with the Ch. 1+2 combined VP file.  I initially tried running it with one of Goober's builds from about a month ago, which had always been very stable for me, but the thing always CTD while loading mission 1.  I don't know if there's anything you can do to fix it, or if it's just 3.6.7 being screwy, but I thought it would be good to report nontheless.  I'll keep fooling around on my end to find something that works; I can remember how awesome this campaign gets further on, and I'm really impatient to get there. :p
« Last Edit: October 01, 2005, 02:27:44 pm by 1965 »

 

Offline Singh

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ugh. its very odd, to say the least. I've edited the campaign file and re-uploaded everything (actually did so yesterday) so redownloading the .fc2 files should fix it I think.
"Blessed be the FREDder that knows his sexps."
"Cursed be the FREDder that trusts FRED2_Open."
Dreamed of much, accomplished little. :(