[TrashMan]

Originally posted by aldo_14


So you're supporting the detention of an 82-year old (a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany) under the terrorism act for heckling?  Presumably you'd suggest profiling all old people?

Where the heck have I said that? You constantly insist in putting words in my mounth, don't you?
Why don't you jump off a cliff or something and make hte world a better place?

[vyper]

How about you Can the attitude and start debating the subject at hand?

[Roanoke]

Originally posted by TrashMan

Why don't you jump off a cliff or something and make hte world a better place?

seems a bit harsh...

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TrashMan


Where the heck have I said that? You constantly insist in putting words in my mounth, don't you?
Why don't you jump off a cliff or something and make hte world a better place?

You first.

What the hell did you post that for anyways, then?  Unless you're trying to somehow reference the detention of an 82 year old under the terrorism act for heckling and justify it vis-a-vis the example some nasty little old lady in that nasty little war of ethnic cleasing, it's a completely pointless post and completely and utterly off topic.

What was your point?  

Did you even have one?

[TrashMan]

I do - old people aren't necesarily harmless.

Granted, this hasn't much to with the actualy content of hte thread, alltoguh it has something to do with the title...


ON TOPIC - I suppose the safety mesures are there to protect the politicians - a likey target for terrorist. That said it's practicly impossible to tell who is a terrorist untill tehy strike.
I'm not saying that what happened is OK thouhg.. Shows how f***** up everything is today.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by TrashMan
ON TOPIC - I suppose the safety mesures are there to protect the politicians - a likey target for terrorist. That said it's practicly impossible to tell who is a terrorist untill tehy strike.
I'm not saying that what happened is OK thouhg.. Shows how f***** up everything is today.

It's pretty unlikely that someone who was a terrorist would get himself thrown out of the conference for heckling when he could have just commited his terrorist act instead though wouldn't you say?

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TrashMan
I do - old people aren't necesarily harmless.

Granted, this hasn't much to with the actualy content of hte thread, alltoguh it has something to do with the title...


ON TOPIC - I suppose the safety mesures are there to protect the politicians - a likey target for terrorist. That said it's practicly impossible to tell who is a terrorist untill tehy strike.
I'm not saying that what happened is OK thouhg.. Shows how f***** up everything is today.

Oh come on.  You really think there is any justification for arresting this guy as a terrorist?  

If he can be arrested under anti-terrorism legistlation for this, then I can.  And Kara can.  And you could.  Hell, everyone here could who has ever expressed a negative opinion.  And that's excluding the fact he had to have been granted a pass to even be admitted to the auditorium in the first place.

No-noe is necessarily harmless (even if your example takes place in a warzone of ethnic cleansing, which is somewhat different to the UK even in the present situation); does that mean it's fair to be able to arrest and detain anyone arbitrarily?

That's the point here.  An 82 year old man heckles a political speech, and is arrested under the terrorism act as a direct result of it.  That's not justifiable under any definition of 'security', unless you're Hitler or Stalin, or Mao (etc).