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Offline Rictor

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Offline BlackDove

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Hey, it's just like on that show CSI.

Beh. Who gives a ****? You already lack most of your freedoms and rights to privacy in the US.

 

Offline IceFire

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Seriously...what constitution?  I understand that there is a move afoot to change the laws regarding the use of military on home soil.  Mostly in relation to disasters and flu pandemics...

As I understand it, the current practice is that nothing short of full out and out Martial Law would allow the military to deploy troops around the country in the roles of law enforcement and the like.  I think thats a good thing.

Same rule up here.  Only after the declaration of the War Measures Act could the Canadian military actually deploy.  War Measures Act, as I recall, has only been enacted twice in this countries history...hopefully never again.

I hope calmer heads prevail down there as well.
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Offline Rictor

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Ha!

Actually, if you want to talk about Canada, we've got quite a few shifty laws, though like UK's Labour party, the Liberals are doing it under the banner of the nanny statism. Take for example the pitbull ban, or the smoking ban. Though that's for another day. Once you get to the point that such legislation (the one in the article) is even being considered, peaceful debate has failed and it's time to go shopping for a .50 cal.

 

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thankfully we still have a right to a private arsenal
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Only a token measure. It's not like anything that could get into the hands of a civilian (beyond some black market arms) would actually stand up against the US military.
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Only a token measure. It's not like anything that could get into the hands of a civilian (beyond some black market arms) would actually stand up against the US military.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aside from full automatic modes, the AR-15 is every bit as much good as the M-16 is?

Plus I'd worry about the firepower people already have with their collections of handguns and rifles.  Crazy armed people down there :D
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Offline Goober5000

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thankfully we still have a right to a private arsenal
That's been eroding for awhile though.

 

Offline Ford Prefect

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Must resist temptation to say that thankfully I have a private arsenal in my pants.

Damnit, I just said it.
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It would also help giving a (joe doe) a name, as in the case a body is found.. And also identify a murder suspect, so i`m not complaining.  :)
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Offline Kosh

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I hope calmer heads prevail down there as well.


Do you want to make any bets on that? :D


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Plus I'd worry about the firepower people already have with their collections of handguns and rifles. Crazy armed people down there


Yeah, didn't someone post a link a few months ago about a guy who has a big collection of fully functional tanks with ammo?
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Offline WMCoolmon

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Must resist temptation to say that thankfully I have a private arsenal in my pants.

Damnit, I just said it.


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I hope calmer heads prevail down there as well.


Do you want to make any bets on that? :D


:lol: :lol:




But seriously, :sigh: :wtf:  :doubt: :ick:
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*reconsiders building that automatic gun turret*

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Offline aldo_14

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It would also help giving a (joe doe) a name, as in the case a body is found.. And also identify a murder suspect, so i`m not complaining.  :)


Means they could indentify everything you've ever touched, though (well, unless you wear gloves all the time).  Send an anonymous 'whistleblowing' letter?  They can get epiphelials off the paper, or saliva from the envelope seal, or perhaps your saliva from breathing on it.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aside from full automatic modes, the AR-15 is every bit as much good as the M-16 is?[/q]

Compared to a wire-guided TOW?

 

Offline Rictor

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It would also help giving a (joe doe) a name, as in the case a body is found.. And also identify a murder suspect, so i`m not complaining.  :)


So identifying a few bodies here and there, after they're already dead, is more important than the privacy of several hundred million living people?

I'm sorry, but I can't agree. Even if it could stop crime altogether, the price is just not worth it. Privacy is an inalienable human right.

  

Offline Shrike

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Ha!

Actually, if you want to talk about Canada, we've got quite a few shifty laws, though like UK's Labour party, the Liberals are doing it under the banner of the nanny statism. Take for example the pitbull ban, or the smoking ban. Though that's for another day. Once you get to the point that such legislation (the one in the article) is even being considered, peaceful debate has failed and it's time to go shopping for a .50 cal.
You think allowing people to smoke wherever the hell they want without a care for anyone else is a good thing?  As far as I'm concerned the smoking ban (which, I note is municipal and provincial level, not federal level) is the best thing to happen to going-out-and-having-fun in my lifetime.
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Offline Ford Prefect

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And, as far as I'm concerned, the pitbull ban is even better. I've lost track of the number of incidents involving pitbulls killing or maiming people and other animals. Those dogs are dangerous and downright ornery.
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Offline Rictor

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Shrike: That's all well and good, but a bar is still private property. It belongs to the individual, not to the government. And attendance is strictly voluntary. If some bar wants to have a big Friday night orgy then commit mass suicide, it's still private property. I can understand the arguement for public places, but no one is forced to go into bars. If people don't like it, and are unwilling to sit in the no smoking section, they can go find a non-smoking bar and get all their non-smoking buddies to come. Private property, man.

Ford: You can't punish people (or animals) for crimes they might commit. That's the same reason why you shouldn't lock up all the A-rabs, just to be on the safe side. Honestly, you make it sound like it's a pitbull holocaust. Guess what: dogs have teeth for a reason. You can dress them up in cute little sweaters and carry them around in your purse, but they're still animals, and as such can sometimes flip out. Statistically, do you think that even 1% of pitbulls are ever involved in a violent incident? You can't punish the vast, vast majority of pitbulls, who are peaceful and have responsible owners, for the actions of some trailer redneck and her out-of-control mutt.

 

Offline Ford Prefect

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Statistically, pitbulls kill and maim a whole lot more than other dogs. They were bred for that behavior. I know more than one person who has lost a dog to a pitbull, and in a case of a child being killed or injured by a dog, it's almost guaranteed to be a pitbull. Now, I'm a huge advocate of personal liberties, but I draw the line when something becomes a physical danger to other people. It's the same reason we have safety regulations for buildings and vehicles-- if someone wants to endanger him/herself, I don't care, but I don't want someone else putting me in danger.
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Offline Rictor

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Find me a statistic which relates the total number of pitbulls to the number involved in violent attacks. They may be more violent than other dogs, but that's not the question. The question is are they more violent than the tolerance limit. And don't say that there is no such thing as an acceptable level of violence, because that would make you sound like a middle-aged soccer mom. Clearly, society does and must tolerate a certain degree of violence if it is get on with the business of living life. One attack per year is differrent than 100, is different than 100,000. At some point, safety outweighs personal liberties, but the arguement I'm making is that, unless I'm very much in the dark, we have not come even close to that point.

The fact it, you live with danger all the time, as does everyone else. You could very well be run over by a car, or have a brick fall on your head (just a few days ago, I accidentally dropped a bottle of Windex from the 7th floor. It landed less than a meter from a small girl playing below. Luckily, it was a plastic bottle, and just scared the girl and spilled the Windex) When a driver kills someone because of carelessness, they fine him or give him jail time. But to make the arguement that cars should be banned, because they are a potential danger (a far greater one than pitbulls I would imagine) is absurd.
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