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Offline Wild Fragaria

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Editorial: Nature 437, 928 (13 October 2005) | doi: 10.1038/437928a

The US President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST) has rarely fulfilled the full potential of its nominal role, which is to provide the most powerful elected official in the world with scientific advice.

In theory, the presidentially appointed panel could keep the president informed on key science- and technology-related issues, ranging from avian flu and global warming to computer viruses and nuclear-weapons proliferation.

In practice, however, the panel has never lived up to that ideal. It came closest, perhaps, under the first President Bush, who graced PCAST meetings with his presence. The panel was active but not particularly influential under Bill Clinton, and has been almost invisible under the current president.

So the news that PCAST is to be merged with another, even more obscure panel, the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee (PITAC), will make few waves. Nonetheless, the amalgamation of the panels, and the expansion of the possible number of members from 25 to an unwieldy 45, portends a possible weakening of the voice of science in the White House.

PCAST has already confined itself to the relative arcana of science policy. At the moment, for example, it is evaluating the effectiveness of the National Nanotechnology Initiative — a worthwhile exercise, but hardly one that is likely to grab the president's attention.

Floyd Kvamme, a venture capitalist who co-chairs PCAST with John Marburger, the president's science adviser, says the new panel will operate much as before, with the new work delegated to appropriate subcommittees. But unless the panel becomes considerably more active, its new role overseeing all the information-technology research initiatives in the federal government may mean that less time and resources are available to work on science issues. This marks a continuation of the tendency of the Bush administration to marginalize the voices of science in its internal deliberations.

One of the difficulties that will always face a body such as PCAST is the sheer vastness of the territory it is supposed to cover. These days, advice on specific scientific questions will often require detailed specializations that few PCAST members will possess. At the same time, there is a tendency for officially designated advisory bodies that are required by US law to meet in public — such as PCAST — to shun robust discussion of substantive issues. Finally, the president's discretion in appointing the entire panel himself is not conducive to the delivery of solid and occasionally unwelcome advice.

PCAST is the latest in a series of similar panels stretching back to the administration of Harry Truman. Some have been more active and influential than others, depending largely on the president's own interest in science and his relationship with the chief science adviser. Perhaps a future administration will develop the committee's role and profile instead of neglecting it — but even then, the panel's preeminence will last only as long at that president's term in office.

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Things that science and technology related in this country are going down hill fast.  First, ID and now this.

 

Offline aldo_14

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PCAST Standard Minutes plan;
Select one at random.

1/ You can eat that
2/ You can skin and sell that
3/ We don't need that
4/ We have too many of those
5/ It's cheaper to get rid of that
6/ That'll be extinct soon, but saving it costs money, so we don't want it
7/ That'll cost money we can otherwise spend on electric hammers
8/ We refuse to acknowledge that exists
9/Ok, it might exist, but it's not our fault
10/ Ok, it exists and it's our fault, but it's too expensive to fix.
11/ Blame France/China/Canada/Democrats/God (select as appropriate)

 

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I guess when God talks to you, you don't need advisors.
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Offline Wild Fragaria

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Then he should really mention that God talked to him while trying to introduce ID to the education system here.

 

Offline aldo_14

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Does this mean Dick Cheney is God?

 

Offline Wild Fragaria

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Cheney? God?  His's name Cheney not God, maybe he just a representative of God.

  

Offline aldo_14

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God moves in mysterious ways.

After all - nipples for men?

 

Offline Wild Fragaria

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Why not?

 

Offline aldo_14

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Well, if they did something useful like, I dunno, shot laser beams, then fine.   I'm not sure anyone could argue with nipple based death rays.

 

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Not for longer than the beam warmup time at least :D
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Offline Wild Fragaria

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An option for men if some day men are giving the chance to nurse their offsrpings?  :)

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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There was a similar article on /.

What really struck me was this comment:
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A major part of the problem is that profit is more important than innovation. Pure, unadulterated research for the sake of discovering new and better ways of doing things or even just learning something new is pretty much dead.

How many corporations have scaled back or even eliminated their R&D departments because they won't turn a profit next quarter?

How much money does big oil spend to suppress new technologies?

Overly restrictive patents bar research by all who can't cough up the money to expand on somebody else's work.

Kids are actively discouraged from tinkering for fear of hurting themselves or hurting somebody else's bottom line. Want to experiment with chemistry? Here's some lemon juice and baking soda - but we'll arrest you if you put it into a plastic bottle. Want to play with model rockets? Prove you aren't a terrorist. Want to hack your X-Box and see how circuits work? The FBI'll be knocking on your door. Biology? Take pictures of a worm, but make sure it isn't endangered. Engineering? The city'll come and fine you for not building your treehouse to code.

When you get to college... how many professors actually teach science and how many spend all of their time seeking new grants to ensure the university can afford a new football stadium?

And of the precious little research that actually is happening, how much is classified and never sees the light of day
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Originally posted by Wild Fragaria
An option for men if some day men are giving the chance to nurse their offsrpings?  :)


I don't think lactations' my strong suit

;)

 

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There are hormones you can take which will take care of that little problem for you :D
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Well, I guess it would make breakfast simpler.  Grab some crunchy nut, a little nipple twist and roberts' your fathers brother.

Although there's probably some downside I'm not seeing.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2005, 01:22:57 pm by 181 »

 

Offline Wild Fragaria

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WMCoolmon

This is sad and dissapointing to see.

Aldo & Karajorma

You get the freshest milk and save some money from getting milk delivered to your doors :)
« Last Edit: October 13, 2005, 01:24:17 pm by 3002 »

 

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...the expansion of the possible number of members from 25 to an unwieldy 45...

It's a good thing Republicans are opposed to wasteful government spending.
"Mais est-ce qu'il ne vient jamais à l'idée de ces gens-là que je peux être 'artificiel' par nature?"  --Maurice Ravel

 

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Originally posted by Wild Fragaria
Aldo & Karajorma

You get the freshest milk and save some money from getting milk delivered to your doors :)


Or you could drink lots of vodka and dispense White Russians on cue :D
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Offline Wild Fragaria

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Good call Karajorma.  I guess men having nipples are quite beneficial afterall :)

 

Offline aldo_14

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I'd still prefer death rays.