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Offline jdjtcagle

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everyone remembers backgrounds skyboxes...
I made this in Photoshop and wondered what it would look like in-game so, how would you get this 4mb TGA as a in-game skybox??

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Offline Bobboau

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everyone remembers backgrounds skyboxes...
that is a good star map, but I don't think it would make for a good sky box, the reason being that sky box textures are suposed to be the big all encompassing nebulus stuff, with no stars atall, in fact inadvertently leaveing stars in makes the sky box look very bad usualy.
but it does make for a good star map if you should ever need one.
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Offline jdjtcagle

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Well thanks I'm glad you like my star map, but I guess I can learn to make nebula or something, since this wouldn't work. :p
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everyone remembers backgrounds skyboxes...
It still looks really cool
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Very:nod:. Did you do that withg Greg Martin's tut?
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Offline KARMA

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I don't dislike stars in the textures of a skybox but those are too dense, too big and blurry and the image doesn't seem tileable. Not bad btw

 

Offline JarC

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Originally posted by Bobboau
that is a good star map, but I don't think it would make for a good sky box, the reason being that sky box textures are suposed to be the big all encompassing nebulus stuff
?? so if I understand you right, a horsehead nebula running from one horizon to the oposite side is ok, but a sky filled with stars stretching the same distance isn't?

Well...I've still to find a skybox mission that works so I can not judge myself, but what you say does not seem logical unless serious stretching is done by the engine, causing stars to become stripes...


@jdjtcagle: I like it, there's however a couple of straight edges in there resulting from pasting in stuf...get rid of them and it looks great....and then I would not mind using it as backdrop...:D
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Offline Flipside

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The problem is JarC is that if the stars are stretched beyond even one pixel in either direction, it becomes noticeable. The problem is curable with work, but it's work no-one needs to do.

The starfield is great, btw, though, as JarC says, there are one of two points where you've deleted a line of stars, and you can see the edge, but it's easily repairable :) I see the silent hand of Greg Martin moving across many starfields on here ;)

 

Offline Lightspeed

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I don't like it.

For the following reasons:

1) Theres odd cutting edges in it (ugly ugly ugly)

2) The stars dont look like stars

3) The stars are grouped in kind of ... "wobbles"? with black parts between them. This reminds me of the way X² star backgrounds are - which is a very bad thing. To put it more precise, I hate the way the blue looks like as if it's just been paintbrushed in. The mix of small & big stars also is pretty much odd.

4) In-game it would look totally unusable, as in addition to the reasons above, it would look rather ugly like any image with pre-done stars would. They just dont mix with FS2's normal star system. Leave it always to the engine to create the stars.

On another side note, it's not even tileable so I guess its unsuitable for any skybox model anyway.
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Offline JarC

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Originally posted by Flipside
The problem is JarC is that if the stars are stretched beyond even one pixel in either direction, it becomes noticeable. The problem is curable with work, but it's work no-one needs to do.
figured as much it had to with stretching, that be the only reason why it could be looking worse...as I said, haven't been able to get one working here...still, I even more dislike the idea of a nebula stretching from one horizon to the next if you're not flyin in one...
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Offline jdjtcagle

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
I don't like it.

For the following reasons:

1) Theres odd cutting edges in it (ugly ugly ugly)

2) The stars dont look like stars

3) The stars are grouped in kind of ... "wobbles"? with black parts between them. This reminds me of the way X² star backgrounds are - which is a very bad thing. To put it more precise, I hate the way the blue looks like as if it's just been paintbrushed in. The mix of small & big stars also is pretty much odd.

4) In-game it would look totally unusable, as in addition to the reasons above, it would look rather ugly like any image with pre-done stars would. They just dont mix with FS2's normal star system. Leave it always to the engine to create the stars.

On another side note, it's not even tileable so I guess its unsuitable for any skybox model anyway.


Sorry you don't like it lightspeed... I'll post  a nebula in a minute, see if you like that.

BW: I made it with Greg martin's tutorial :nod:

I also think it looks really cool, but there will always be something wrong with my stuff now won't there lightspeed?? :p
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Offline jdjtcagle

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Here's a nebula I made... WIP, if I get around to finishing it that is :p

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Offline Lightspeed

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Sorry to say, but if there (IMHO) is something wrong I say it.

If you dont want to hear any honest feedback simply don't post your stuff :)

This is nothing personal, i'm not trying to offend you or anything - i'm just trying to point out what's bad/needs improvement with your work.

Look at that nebula for example. It looks like anything, but not like a nebula i'm afraid. :doubt:
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Agreed.  It sort of looks like extremely red fire, not a huge cloud of gas.

 

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it looks like you had a red blob and a white blob, used smudge on full power, then dodged the midtones randomaly with a 9 pixel brush
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Offline Lightspeed

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it looks like some red plants with a white blob on them, somehow.
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Offline jdjtcagle

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Ahhh... Lightspeed, I'm just messing with ya :)  

I really don't care, I will just know you will be the one to find it :D
Mostly because I know I have know future in this field, I'm messing around to try make something and KNOW I will fail in the end, I always do... But, I enjoy to try and making better, or just see what people think ;)
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Offline jdjtcagle

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Originally posted by Turambar
it looks like you had a red blob and a white blob, used smudge on full power, then dodged the midtones randomaly with a 9 pixel brush


You would be right... Except they were scribbles not blobs :D
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Offline Lightspeed

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Wrong moral there. If you 'know you will fail' you *will* fail in the end.

Creating eye candy is a very tough process and will take quite a while to be learned properly. Adobe Photoshop is generally a bad advice for people learning. It is very complex and not precisely easy to work with. However, once you know what you're doing the possibilities are (almost) unlimited and any form of 'helping tools' as you find in other tools would simply slow you down.
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Offline jdjtcagle

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I do believe you, but screw moral... who needs it, I got pride :D
Hmmm... Don't know if that made any sense.:nervous: But, yes you can make almost anything... LINK
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