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Offline gevatter Lars

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I got a little problem...

I got these strange white things during the missions and they slow down the system when they come into sight.
Here are some pics



I was told that these error have nothing to do with missing graphics...beside that fakt that all graphics are there.

Does anyone knows something like this happend befor?
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Looks almost like a clipping plane is getting rendered or something. I have no idea.

What are your computer's specs? What build are you using, what commandlines?
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Offline Lightspeed

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Looks like you run out of memory.
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Offline Tolwyn

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hmm... the stations lacks shine maps...

back to the topic: I assume that lars is using 3.6 EXE with following command line options:

spec -glow -pcx32 -jpgtga -d3dmipmap -ship_choice_3d -fps -stats -show_mem_usage -dnoshowvid  -ambient_factor 90
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Offline gevatter Lars

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@Tolwyn
How did you know that ^_^
I think you have just looked at my batchfile right?

Commandlines see Tolwyns posting
PC:
3Ghz
1024MB Ram
GF FX5700 256MB

Beside that I forgot to mention that the FPS drops extremly when I see the white stuff and gets up again when I can't see it.
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Originally posted by gevatter Lars
@Tolwyn
How did you know that ^_^
I think you have just looked at my batchfile right?

Commandlines see Tolwyns posting
PC:
3Ghz
1024MB Ram
GF FX5700 256MB

Beside that I forgot to mention that the FPS drops extremly when I see the white stuff and gets up again when I can't see it.


nope, but this is my command line as I use it ;)

only thing is that you do not use statistic, which is quite useful
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Offline gevatter Lars

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ok looked into my batchfile...here are my specs

-spec -glow -pcx32 -jpgtga -d3dmipmap -ship_choice_3d -d3d_no_vsync -dnoshowvid -startgame -ambient_factor 90
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What´s that Mod/Campaign? INFERNO?? Do you have the same problem with the FS2 campaign or any other Mod? Not every Build runs with every Mod (not for me), so maybe try another Build. The latest Bobbeau (I think 06_03 ??) for example runs absolutly smooth on my system (athlon64, ati9700) and you get env-mapping, too. That´s really a big eyecandy, especially in combination with LIGHTSPEED´s excellent fighter/bomber maps. (I really don´t know how i ever could lived without it   :p )
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Offline WMCoolmon

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I see "Kilrathi", so I'm guessing it's the WC mod.
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Offline gevatter Lars

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Yes it is the Wing Commander Mod.
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are you useing any of the newer image formats (dds in particular)?
are you the only member of your mod that is haveing these issues?
those are suposed to be explosions or background nebuli or engine glows or something like that right?

looks to me more like an isse with lighting getting turned on/off when it's not suposed to, I remember someone doing something with the model buffer rendering that caused an issue like this, and I remember seeing very short flashes of it on ocasion recently
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I have just run a quick test. From what I can tell only Lars is experiencing this weird problem.

And no, we are not using dds, backgrounds are Lightspeed's TGA eyecandies.

In order to answer your question: this are supposed to be background images (I assume that in this case this are nebulas)
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Mh strange..why is it allways me who has problems...maybe I should do a complete reinstallation of FS2 and the mod and hope that the problems aren't there after that.
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or perhaps it is 3.6 EXE...

could you run the same mission with older build?
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Quote
Originally posted by Psychonaut
What´s that Mod/Campaign? INFERNO?? Do you have the same problem with the FS2 campaign or any other Mod? Not every Build runs with every Mod (not for me), so maybe try another Build. The latest Bobbeau (I think 06_03 ??) for example runs absolutly smooth on my system (athlon64, ati9700) and you get env-mapping, too. That´s really a big eyecandy, especially in combination with LIGHTSPEED´s excellent fighter/bomber maps. (I really don´t know how i ever could lived without it   :p )


Pwease. Not writey my name is caps :p

I hate capital letters. Ban them :lol:

I still think it fails to load somehow. I've seen people which ran out of memory and as the texture load failed it whitened out everything. We even had that on Mantis at one point. I'll search if I can dig up the bug report...
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hmm... perhaps lars failed to download a background file from our internal database, but I doubt it.

And it hardly can be memory issue. He has 1024 mb of ram. It could be swap file however... :rolleyes:
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as the others said the white thing usually happens when the polys are rendered by the game without a texture

 

Offline Bobboau

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that's a directx thing, if FS doesn't load a texture it's invisable. so something has to happen that disrupts the texture after it's loaded.

or actualy, how big are these textures (resolution) ?
try scaleing them down, that might be what's wrong, though FS is suposed to take care of this contingency.
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Offline Tolwyn

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to answer your quetio: this are Lightspeed's nebula... so it is highlya unlikely that they are the source of this visual error
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Offline Starman01

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Well, the big white one behind the blackmane-base is the planet-file.

@Lars : I really suggest make a reinstall (I did that too, sometimes it
really resolves a lot of failures (due to a messed up registry perhaps).

I'm not sure, if you are using the tga-backgrounds, the mission works
well for me with tga. Maybe you should download the stars.tbl and the
effect-folder again.
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