[ShadowWolf_IH]

Microsoft alienated most of the BT community because they blew it on the storyline, not to mention the fact that they changed the way mechs looked.  The closest we've had to classic battletech as far as looks go was mech3, which by the way kicked royal ass.  For FS3, my answer is simple, Ferrium and SCP.  I asked this question two years, and i'll ask it again.....when was the last time a development company asked the players what they wanted?  Hasn't happened to my knowledge.  Would i like to see a freespace 3?  Not from [V].  I think that if it did it would lay to waste and overshadow all of the hard work that our coders have done.  Our guys have turned a great game into something incredible, and anyone who posted an idea, whether it got used or not, had a small hand in it.  

I say....put together a team, maybe vote on them, and let them come up with the storyline, then pick the cream of the crop and let them build the models, and then let the fredders go nuts.  I think that fs3 if done by our community would rock a hell of a lot more than it would from [V], simply because our people don't do it for money, they do it for the love of the game.  

that's my take on it anyway.....

we now return you to your regularly scheduled rum party.....

[Jetmech Jr.]

is all i can say to that, ShadowWolf

[Falcon]

I agree with you Shadow, I can imagine Hard Light Productions one day being a company. There have been similiar companies that did start out as small groups but as time went by they gradually increased in numbers. Basically Hard Light has done that it has the numbers and has people who have dedicated thier time to working on the Freespace games. So keep up the good work Hard Light and SCP. God speed

[Singh]

I agree with Shadow on this.......HLP should make FS3.....not [v]

But then, if [v] decided to make another and actually did.......our efforts go to waste.......

ach.....we actually need to bury the rights further so nobody else can use 'em, at least make sure we can't be stopped!

[Falcon]

HLP should buy the rights

[Rictor]

singh: well, except for the fact that V could make it about 10x better than the HLP community ever could. Not to downplay the SCP and other achievements, but how many actual campagins, I mean full campaigns with a story, voice acting, custom ships, 30+ missions, fully SCP enabled, custom art and all that, how many have been released? So far, I count none. And with Reci being layed to rest, along with OTT and others, the future ain't looking all that great for people who want actual new content to go along with the SCP coolness.

The fact is, Volition is a professional developer. They have a dedicated staff, being payed to focus all their attention on making games. No one could do FS3 more justice than V, assuming they are given freedom to make a good game, and not another RF2.

[ShadowWolf_IH]

Well how about i just go and cut the idiots.....I mean the good folks at Interplay a check.  It'll bounce, but what the hell, all of my checks bounce.

OK but seriously, in response to Rictor, no Campaign has been finished with SCP content, i grant you that.  But I can tell you that MT is strolling right along, and 3.6 is the one we have been waiting for.  Mod freindly Multiplayer being not the only reason.  There are a number of enhancements that we are using, and a number that we plan to use.  I daresay that the SCP guys have made my job (Lead Fredder) so much easier.  I remember fredding Casualties of War, and while it isn't quite the dark ages, i can see that of what I am doing now would not be possible at all without heavy scripting and a lot of luck.  Thanks to the efforts of our guys, I can do my job better and faster.  

Let's also look at the advances made in PCS.  I remember a time when to edit a POF, you placed things, then went in and tested them, then came out again and redid the whole thing.  POF editting is a superbly streamlined setup as compared to what it was.  We don't need to discuss the Specular lighting, or the Skyboxes do we?  The fact is, that while i agree we are not professionals, and this is all being done for free, i ask also for you to concede that our guys, not just the SCP wonderworkers, but our modellers, our texturers, our programmers, and our story developers aren't just out there being the best that they can be, our guys are in fact out there setting new standards of excellence.  If you think I'm wrong, take a look at Casualties of War, the destroyer in that smokes anything that [V] did, not the model itself, but the excruciating detail in the texturing.  I put more stock in the opinions of our guys than i do in the facts of [V].

[Rictor]

The way things are going, it might be enough to offer the execs a warm meal and a place to stay for the night, and we have ourselves a deal.

______________

"So, lets talk about buyig the rights to the Freespace universe"

"Alright guys, what do you have in mind. Make us an offer"

"OK then, right to the point. How about a large pepperoni pizza and drinks."

*Interplay execs look at each other*

"Best offer we've had so far"

"Oh...you mean....seriously?"

"Well, lets not be too hasty. I have some concerns here."

"Yeah, figures. Pretty stupid of me to think it would be that easy"

"You bet. We're not stupid. So...how many toppings are we talking about here?"

"Uhh..err...how does 3 sound? And we'll throw in dipping sauce!"

"Done and done! Boys, we're in the money now!"

[ShadowWolf_IH]

Great one, but what if they get gutsy and want some rum to go with it?

[Rictor]

See, thats the time to get tough with them. You need a firm stance during the negotiations. So they want some rum do they!? Perhaps they also want a golden throne and a few dozen palaces! What you do is, threaten to get a few buddies together and go knock down their carboard box. Then where will they sleep? Thats what they get for years of shoddy management and corporate scum-baggery.

[WMCoolmon]

[ShadowWolf_IH]

Extortion tactics huh?  I like it.  I hate that word though....Extortion....they kept using it that day in court.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Originally posted by Kalfireth
There's a huge potential for a new space sim now - with technology to back the concept - but most devs are affraid to touch it... and those that do have promised but not delivered.

in this month's PCGamer (UK) a few lines talk about David Braben using Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 as a technology test for Elite 4. If it's true: yay

http://www.frontier.co.uk/index.html seems to be the homepage of the company for which Braben works (or owns?). Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 is there as well as these lines:

"Recruitment: We are currently recruiting artists, level designers and programmers for a major game development project. Due to continued expansion we are also seeking candidates for an internal producer / project lead role on a significant new game development"