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Offline Unknown Target

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
What is with the new private messaging system? It's weird...I can't make heads or tails of it.

 

Offline knn

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Since nobody noticed when I posted it the first time, I'll post it again. This is about the rendering issue in Firefox.

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By the way, the reason the header graphic doesn't work in Firefox is because the javascript that displays the google ads in the header doesn't work in Firefox. The browser won't render the background of an empty table cell (it's empty without the google ads), so the header image disappears.

You can verify this by putting some random text inside the header cell. If you put some text in, the header will suddenly reappear.

www.cyberberry.com/kamikaze/misc/hlp3.html <-- Try this. I stuck a non-breaking space into the header cell.

It does work. But in Firefox, you can disable javascript (don't know about IE)
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Offline Kamikaze

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It does work. But in Firefox, you can disable javascript (don't know about IE)

Oh duh. I forgot I had javascript disabled on Firefox as I rarely use it nowadays. :p
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Offline ZylonBane

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I just get the striped background. Tried a full refresh. No difference. Running Firefox 1.0.7, with Javascript enabled.

And the new forum icons seriously need some ALT text. Some of them look almost identical.

Ummm... and why is there an ad for spyware at the bottom of each page?
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
What would be nice is if each post that's consecutive would be a different colour.  That is, posts alternate in colour

Red
Black
Red
Black

I like having contrast between posts to delineate them.

Either that, or highlight the header for each post.  That would do the job as well.

 

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
What would be nice is if each post that's consecutive would be a different colour.  That is, posts alternate in colour

Red
Black
Red
Black

I like having contrast between posts to delineate them.

Either that, or highlight the header for each post.  That would do the job as well.

I mentioned this myself. Though I now know that the posts do have different background colours, the other colour is way too dark. Almost black.
It should be brightened a bit. But don't highlight the header. The post text should be the thing that jumps from the screen, as it's the most important thing.

Edit: And that quote link text is so bright it's burning my eyes. They are always the first thing that catch my eye when reading the boards. No!
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I had google ads blocked already (for other sites), and when I unblocked them, I got the banner.  I never noticed it was gone since I'd never seen anything different on HLP 3.0.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
What would be REALLY nice would be if there was a higher ratio of content to cruft. The amount of icons and buttons and useless information attached to every single post has finally spiralled out of control with this latest iteration of the forums.

This is how forums should be:
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100955

Nice and clean. None of this "kitchen sink" approach. Only the commonly-used functions included in the layout.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
I'd like to second the question of whether or not there's an option to mark all posts as read.  Seeing all of those "New" icons all over the place makes it difficult to actually determine what's new.  Also, for some reason, the Quick Reply box keeps throwing me out to the main forum whenever I make a post instead of showing the new post in the topic; is this what it's intended to do?

Other than those minor gripes, I'm really liking this overhaul.  Our own domain...torrents...spiffy new forums...great stuff :D

 

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Yeah im here too. Welcome all!
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Look for the little mark unread button. It's on the same line as the text explaining what the New Posts and No New Post icons look like on the main page.
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Offline pyro-manic

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Another weird thing I've noticed is that when you post, rather than taking you to the last message in the thread (usually your own, of course), it takes you to the subforum main page instead. Why is that?
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Offline Kamikaze

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
Another weird thing I've noticed is that when you post, rather than taking you to the last message in the thread (usually your own, of course), it takes you to the subforum main page instead. Why is that?

Returning to the thread is a profile option.
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Offline Nix

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
I dont know if anyone else is experiencing this, but when I post, nothing happens, sometimes as long as 30 seconds or more.  This happens to me here at the college which is super speedy, and at home on my dialup connection.  Kinda laggy, is how I can put it simply.  It doesnt happen all the time, but it has happened more than once. 

 

Offline vyper

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1) Look harder next time
2) http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?action=markasread;sa=all
3) It's at the bottom of the forum index
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Offline Sandwich

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
Hrm.  A popup appears when I use quote (it says "retrieving quote").  Just something interesting I noticed.
Yes, and? It puts the text you want into the quick-reply box. What's your point?


So can you describe what's your exact problem, Chrono? Is it with the disappearing header or something else?
Most notable is that the striping pattern is missing from Firefox.  In Deer Park Beta (now 1.5 beta) the header graphic is completely missing.  Perhaps it's been fixed now in 1.5 beta 2.  I'll have to check later.

Nonetheless, it's still rendering a bit funny in normal Firefox.

Obviously it's not a serious problem, but I thought you guys might want to be alerted to it.
The lack of striping in Firefox (or, rather, the presence of striping in IE) is due to IE's inability to handle transparent or partially-transparent PNGs. So we make concessions. Firefox gets the smooth half-transparent PNG, IE's stuck with the all-or-nothing striped GIF.


This doesn't quite work unfortunately and it's a global setting that affects everything anyway. It causes some things to get misaligned and at least on my laptop, has a weird effect on IE and Firefox, causing all website images to look pixellated.
Misaligned? Website images being pixelated?? Neither IE nor Firefox resize images regardless of what font-size or screen DPI resolution you have... one pixel equals one pixel to them. Can you explain your problem better?


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And you'd better have fixed the [colour] tags...[/colour]

What's this? Three days warning and no fixage? Not on fellows, not on at all!
"Sanger"?

And the colour tag cannot be "fixed", for two reasons: One, it's not broken. It's spelt properly, because we're on International English here on the Internet. Two, we cannot add a "colour" tag in SMF. Get over it. You don't have to type it in anyway.


By the way, the reason the header graphic doesn't work in Firefox is because the javascript that displays the google ads in the header doesn't work in Firefox. The browser won't render the background of an empty table cell (it's empty without the google ads), so the header image disappears.

You can verify this by putting some random text inside the header cell. If you put some text in, the header will suddenly reappear.

www.cyberberry.com/kamikaze/misc/hlp3.html <-- Try this. I stuck a non-breaking space into the header cell.
Done - thanks dude. :)


Please do tell me the nested text can be changed.
What, the fact that the text gets smaller? That's on purpose, and I see no reason to change it. There's no reason to leave 5 levels of quotes in your posts; learn to properly format a quote and reply.


b) a different background colour between the post itself and the left part with the nickname. This was more eyefriendly IMO
c) Like already mentioned, could you fix the [Color] and [Colour] stuff ? It would save me reworking some sticky posts :)
b) Personally, I'd say "No" outright. ;)
c) Unless these posts you mention were made since the relaunch, then you're wrong. Styxx wrote an (incredibly awesome) script that parsed through ALL the imported posts and changed "colour" tags to "color" tags. No reworking should be needed. And like I wrote above, we can't add a "colour" tag. Just not possible.


And the new forum icons seriously need some ALT text. Some of them look almost identical.

Ummm... and why is there an ad for spyware at the bottom of each page?
ALT text - agreed, but I dunno if it's feasable. I'll look into it. At some point. Maybe.

And as for the spyware (*glares*), I'd remove the image if I could, but the stats we get through it are more valuable to us than the pain it gives.


What would be REALLY nice would be if there was a higher ratio of content to cruft. The amount of icons and buttons and useless information attached to every single post has finally spiralled out of control with this latest iteration of the forums.

This is how forums should be:
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100955

Nice and clean. None of this "kitchen sink" approach. Only the commonly-used functions included in the layout.
I really shouldn't post when I'm this tired. It makes me short-tempered. Anyway, if you don't like it, make yer own forum.


Also, for some reason, the Quick Reply box keeps throwing me out to the main forum whenever I make a post instead of showing the new post in the topic; is this what it's intended to do?
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Jeez, no need to yell. :p Compared to the old forums, there are about ten times as many profile options, and I haven't even noticed half of them yet.  I think there was a little bit of truth to the sentiment that they just seem a little too busy.  I'm sure I'll get used to the look in a few weeks, but right now I'm in sensory overload mode. :p

 

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
[q]And the colour tag cannot be "fixed", for two reasons: One, it's not broken. It's spelt properly, because we're on International English here on the Internet. Two, we cannot add a "colour" tag in SMF. Get over it. You don't have to type it in anyway.[/q]

Right, I'd just like to point something out here. Firstly, there is no set language on the internet and in fairness, it's not our fault the initial speakers/writers of "international" (read:en_US) English were too lazy to spell properly. :p

Besides, you're Israeli, you should be demanding a Hebrew colour tag. :D
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
I'm so proud of you guys. You've done right by me :).

The new layout will take a little adjusting to (hurts my eyes at first) I think I like it.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Welcome to HLP 3.0!
Not bad.  The changes have already made it much nicer.

Only thing left are the silly sig lengths and perhaps colour contrasting posts.

*can't find the thumbs up smiley*