[ZmaN]

Its probably not the best place to ask, but Is red faction freeware?  does anyone have it that is willing to pu the ISO's up for download (if its freeware)?

[pyro-manic]

AFAIK it's not. But it isn't much cop anyway (in my opinion).

[Styxx]

Nope, not freeware. Look for it on your closest gaming store (used game store would be better).

[Bobboau]

I have it, on disk, a good number of other people around here do as well,
I'm not going to rip it and upload all 1.2 gigs of it though.
it's not that good realy, multi-player is alright, if crippled, but it was developed as a single player game and single player sucks.

I made a multi-player map once, it was prety cool, but people took my betas and put them up for download as if they were final, so on the rare ocasion that someone would run it no one else would be able to play it, because everyone else would be useing on of the fourty thousand other versions of it, and the map is totaly un playable with fewer than four people (and not fun with fewer than 8) so I never ever got to play one game with it despite my many hours of tooling around on it for all time.

[Prophet]

Too bad the FS mod for it didn't work out... That would have been cool, me thinks...

[Janos]

no way man that is insane

[Black Wolf]

I dunno why Red Faction gets such a bad rap. I'm playing through it at the moment (for the first time - we've had it yonks, but I just never got around to it before) and I'm having fun.

[Ransom]

I didn't mind it. I wouldn't say it's high quality entertainment, but I enjoy playing through it - sort of like the way one would enjoy watching a mindless action film. In fact I've gone through the whole game several times when I'm bored because of how short it is.

[Nix]

I got the demo for it when it came out and I was impressed with Geo-mod, but that's where my enthusiasm stopped.  I bought it for 5.99 at my local wal-mart, apparently it had been sitting on the rack for a while, due to the red price sticker and the dust on the cover of the case...  I thought, hey, volition, probably pretty good.  At least Dan Wentz did the music for it.  Boy was I dissapointed on both counts.  Though there was a track I went and hacked up and tried to put into a freespace mission, a bare ulysses vs a demon cruiser.. it actually fit!

[ZylonBane]

I actually paid full retail for Red Faction, even after playing the boring demo.

Ugh, never again. Pure half-assed uninspired garbage.

[Ace]

Red Faction is alright. Uninspired, yes. An engine that wasn't as advanced as it could be because it was being designed to run on a console, yes. But alright.

Red Faction 2 is a pure half-assed piece of uninspired garbage.

[ZylonBane]

The console limitations can only take part of the blame. What about the awful voice acting, the incoherent plot, and the oh-so-inspired scripted sequences?

"Follow me! I'm with the Red Fac--ARGH!"

My favorite moment in the entire game was when that hacker guy gets blown up. As he's running around engulfed in flames, he actually takes a moment to send me a final radio message. Even though I'm standing right there where he could just talk to me. And in the message he doesn't even sound like he's in pain. That's some quality game design.

[Nuke]

i have red faction 2 on cd. i just played my brothers ps2 copy of the original. i already beat it so i didnt buy my own copy. i always wanted to try to make mods for it though.

[Prophet]

If you forget the plot (including the voice acting and dumb scripted events), the game really isn't that bad.

The weapons are pretty cool exept for the lame rocket launcher you get in the beginning. It can't kill a rat, but makes holes in walls.
But no goofy scifi weapons! (well, the railgun, but it was actually kinda cool) The AI isn't incredibly dumb, and the fighting works.
You have to admit that you have played worse games... And I think it was the first game where the characters had facial expressions.

[ZylonBane]

I have played worse games. But I've also played much, MUCH better games. Coming from the same people who gave us Freespace 2, Red Faction was an inexplicable trainwreck.

Regarding the facial expressions, I think Anachronox came out a few months before Red Faction. Now there is an awesome game.

[Nuke]

i did like all the weapon scanners from the original. wish they woulda had them in 2. ive yet to see another game with good, on weapon scanners.

[ZylonBane]

Terminator: Future Shock and Terminator: Skynet.

[kode]

multiplayer red faction 1 was kinda good. the story was, uh, average. blowing walls and stuff up was nice too.

2, was easy, no multiplayer at all, and not as good.

[Night Hammer]

I agree with kode, I think 1 was better, I think the story was better

[redsniper]

I remember that Red Faction was the last shooter I could feasibly play multiplayer with my satellite internet. It was kinda hard when it took 2 seconds to register that I had picked up a gun though...