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Offline Corsair

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Saddam tried to assassinate Bush 41? I was referring to the lack of conclusion to the Gulf War... the fact that the US didn't actually invade Iraq and that Dubya sorta felt that he ought to in order to finish what his dad had started and settle the grudge between the Bush and Hussein families.
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Offline karajorma

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Saddam tried to assassinate Bush 41?

Depends on who you believe. Bush Jnr certainly seems to believe it but others think it's about as valid as the WMD claim.

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April 13, 1993: Sixteen suspected terrorists, allegedly under the control of Saddam Hussein's Iraq, smuggled a car bomb into Kuwait with the intent of killing Bush as he spoke at Kuwait University. The plot was defused when Kuwaiti officials found the bomb and arrested the suspected assassins. Bush had left office in January 1993.


That's the wikipedia entry BTW.
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Offline Corsair

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Interesting. I'd never heard that one.
Wash: This landing's gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: *shrug* "Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die"?
Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.

 

Offline aldo_14

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ive heard that the US wasnt the only country with intelligence saying all that stuff about Iraq, I read somewhere(cant remember where) that the French and the Brits had the same stuff, were just the only ones that acted on it

I believe MI6 was responsible for the forged (incredibly badly forged) Niger Yellowcake uranium documents, but I'm pretty sure they also told the PM they were bollocks at some point and they were still used.

There's evidence the little evidence there was, was 'sexed up' (see http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/07/14/butler.blair/, also http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1592724,00.html and of course the Hutton affair).  Most of this can be put down to the PM wanting to support the Americans (due to the 'special relationship' type affair, which presumably means we get to send target practice for National Guard A-10s.....), and needing to create the correct political context.  which he never acheived, of course; about 70-77% were against war without a firm UN resolution approving it at the time it started.

Of course, let's not forget that there were UN weapons inspectors in Iraq before the war; the US, UK and other nations had an opportunity and indeed a responsibility to provide intelligence that would allow the location of such weapons by UNMOVIC.  So either they (UK, US) had no intelligence to give, or they purposely withheld it to provide a context for war. (indeed, some of the intelligence presented by Powell to the UN proved to be wrong; offhand, a site claimed to be a chemical weapons factory from sat photos was visited and verified to only contain water tankers, etc, and also the claimed 'mobile CBW labs' were found post war and determined to be - as the Iraqis had claimed - for filling hydrogen air baloons.)

The WMD and terrorism 'reasons' have been pretty much shown to be nonsense reasons given by a US government hungry for either revenge (nee finishing Daddys' work), oil or a new strategic base outside Saudi Arabia.  In fact, Iraq has unquestionably worsened terrorism; it's provided a focal point for Islamic fundamentalists to recruit both for regional and international terrorism, given a pretext to terrorist actions such as the July 7th bombings, and is even threatening to become a regional base for 'exporting' terrorism.    Not to mention that as it stands the Iraqi Shia government will be very friendly to Iran, which is even worse for the US' plans for that region.

 

Offline Kosh

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I believe MI6 was responsible for the forged (incredibly badly forged) Niger Yellowcake uranium documents,


Kind of makes you wonder what has become of the legendary British intelligence apparatus. :D
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It got privatised ;)

 

Offline Corsair

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and then outsourced ;)
Wash: This landing's gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: *shrug* "Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die"?
Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.

 

Offline Janos

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and then outsourced ;)

much like interrogations

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