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Offline Stealth

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i actually bought an Audigy 2 :D.  and a thermaltake 680W power supply.

also, remember not to judge based on the "mere" megahertz.

 

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just put the computer together, and whadaya know... the power supply's bad, and one of the hard drives is clicking

GD, this happens every time...

anyway, i decided to go with the Opteron 148 CABNE 0528GPMW, as per CP's suggestion, so that if this doesn't work out, i can blame it all on him.  got it at less than half  what i would've paid for a FX-57, so *shrugs*

also a MSI 7800 GTX.  computer looks pretty good all together

 

Offline CP5670

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Where did you get that CABNE? And how much was it? I really wanted one of those, both for the batch code and the 11 multiplier, but they are in high demand and the ebay prices for the few still for sale were going over $350 when I was looking to buy one. Couldn't really justify paying $150 over a CABYE for the extra 200mhz.

I'm waiting for my pair of 7800GTs to come in. $600 shipped for the EVGA CO versions was an excellent price, especially considering that each one performs about the same as a stock GTX. Now I just need to decide on a motherboard. My final exams end next Friday, after which I have time to mess around with this.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2005, 02:15:44 am by CP5670 »

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Good God, $600 for a video card...that's the reason why I'm waiting to upgrade.
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He said a pair of GTs for 600, that's 300 a pop.  Super high end SLI.  Third best video setup on the market right now.

 

Offline Stealth

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paid ~$450 shipped for it:



here's the computer assembled.  the power supply didn't work, so i bought another one.  also one of the hard drives was making clicking noises, so i'm down to one 300 GB: (.  had a PAIN getting the computer to recognize the SATA drives.  the RAID was recognizing them, but the BIOS wasn't, neither was the XP setup, even after using the ASUS SATA driver floppy disk.



 

Offline Stealth

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I'm waiting for my pair of 7800GTs to come in. $600 shipped for the EVGA CO versions was an excellent price, especially considering that each one performs about the same as a stock GTX. Now I just need to decide on a motherboard. My final exams end next Friday, after which I have time to mess around with this.

no they don't.  they're always going to be quite a few percent under the GTX, especially at higher resolutions, and that's when the 7800 gtx really starts to shine.

remember, again, there's not a big conspiracy going on here ;)  They're not selling the 7800 GT for $200 less than the GTX, just to screw people over.  they aren't the same card :).  plus i've got room for upgrades, i.e. when i decide to get a second 7800 gtx near the end of the year

 

Offline CP5670

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Good God, $600 for a video card...that's the reason why I'm waiting to upgrade.

Yeah, video cards are getting increasingly expensive at the high end, but they're the one component worth spending a lot of money on. I have gotten addicted to 2048x1536 and want to play as many things as possible in that. :D

These are actually quite a good deal though compared to the other options in this price range. They destroy the $550 X1800XT and are either slightly or considerably faster than the $750 7800GTX 512MB, depending on the game. The 80 series drivers have fixed a lot of the SLI quirks.

There are rumors that both companies will release new top end cards in February, but if the 512MB GTX was any indication, the inflated prices and low availability of these parts will be a major problem. I also want to make use of the cards during my winter break, which ends in February, so it made more sense for me to just buy now instead of waiting.

You can still get very good cards for a lot less though. The 6800GS, X800GTO/GTO2 (the GTO2 is back to $200 now) or a single 7800GT are all great options for the money at the moment.

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paid ~$450 shipped for it:

hmm, for $450 it's not that great a deal anymore, since the original price of those was around $200. I guess if you were looking at an FX57 instead, it's not too bad.

Did you cut off the heatspreader or did it come like that? That is supposed to drop the temperatures by quite a bit as long as you can get the heatsink to make contact correctly.

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no they don't. they're always going to be quite a few percent under the GTX, especially at higher resolutions, and that's when the 7800 gtx really starts to shine.

remember, again, there's not a big conspiracy going on here ;) They're not selling the 7800 GT for $200 less than the GTX, just to screw people over. they aren't the same card :). plus i've got room for upgrades, i.e. when i decide to get a second 7800 gtx near the end of the year

Check a review on the EVGA CO card, which has a signficant stock overclock over a reference GT. Depending on the game, one card is a few percent slower or faster than a reference GTX at 1600x1200 or higher. It's somewhat strange given the theoretical fillrates and memory bandwidth of the cards, but has something to do with the whole "multiple clocks" issue on the G70 cores. These cards generally retail for about $370 (instead of the $440 or so for a reference GTX) but there are some big sales going on at the moment. I think Newegg sold out quickly at the $300 prices, but Mwave might still have some.
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Offline Stealth

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7800 GTX >>>>> 7800 GT

DUAL 7800 GTX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DUAL 7800 GT

;)

 

Offline CP5670

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In that sense,
dual 7800 GTX 512MB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else

:D

 

Offline Stealth

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or how about we just stick with:

My computer > all of yours

;)

This computer's a beast.  i'm not liking the 2.2 GHZ stock with this opteron 148, but it'll be at 3.0 by tonight most likely.

i'm about to run HL2 at the top settings, interested to see how it runs :)

 

Offline CP5670

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You'll have the performance crown around here for about ten days. :D

Anyway, HL2 should run very well. Use the TSAA mode if possible, which helps a lot in that game. I would expect 1600x1200 at 4xTSAA or 2048x1536 with no AA to give solid 60fps minimums. It might struggle at 2048x1536 with 4xMSAA on a single card though, as the 7800 cards are a little weak with AA in general.

Personally, I am not going to try that game again. :p It's Far Cry and SCCT for me. The cards are supposed to come with Call of Duty 2, which looks like an interesting game, and I can sell the second copy on ebay.

 

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or how about we just stick with:

My computer > all of yours

;)


Statements like that make us think

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Why do feel so compelled to be superior?
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Offline Stealth

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because i'm sick and tired of having a "mediocre" computer.  i built this one to be top of the line, and so far it really is.  only thing i'm kind of regretting is not getting dual 7800 gtxs up front.  that and not saving for a FX-57 in the first place

 
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The 7800 GTX is indeed superior to ATI's challenger, the X1800, but only until you turn on antialiasing and anisotropic filtering, whereupon the ATI card makes up ground quickly. But, as I tire of telling my housemates, I still prefer the 7800GTX, since I rarely use AA in modern games and I've yet to see AF slow down a game substantially.

ATI has less experience of Shader Model 3. nVidia is an entire generation ahead in that respect.
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There is also the matter of street prices, as a reference 7800GTX costs about $100 less than a reference X1800XT at the moment. I really like the X1800XT's superior AF quality and the 10-bit HDR output looks interesting, but I wasn't about to pay $550 for just that when for $50 more I could get performance in an entirely different league.

What motherboards do you guys have? I have been looking into several possible options and it seems that they all have their own issues. My best choices seem to be the DFI SLI-D or the Abit AN8-SLI, given that I need SLI and 300mhz HT capability. The A8N32-SLI looks nice but is too expensive / hard to find and the PCI/PCIE slot layout is very bad. Modding a cheaper DFI Ultra-D is another option, but that's unfortunately not guaranteed to work anymore.

  

Offline WMCoolmon

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You can still get very good cards for a lot less though. The 6800GS, X800GTO/GTO2 (the GTO2 is back to $200 now) or a single 7800GT are all great options for the money at the moment.

At the moment, I have an Athlon64 (754-pin) 3000+, 6600 GT AGP, and 512 MB of DDR RAM (since the other 512 died). So in order to upgrade to the newer stuff, I'd have to buy a new processor, new mem, and new video card...buying anything more than the GT for AGP is just not worth it, because when I upgrade everything else I'll just have to spend the money over again. And upgrading the whole thing to something noticeably better would cost $600 or so, and right now I'm trying to save up a bit. (It still runs current games decently, it's about 'average')
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Offline Stealth

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just wanted to say:

Damn this thing is fast.

i did the video stress test in HL2, running 1280x1024 resolution, highest settings (AA, AF, etc.), and get 179 average FPS.  pretty nifty ;)

 

Offline CP5670

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Dude, bump up the resolution. HL2 at 12x10 is nothing for a 7800GTX. Or try turning on the 16xS AA mode.

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At the moment, I have an Athlon64 (754-pin) 3000+, 6600 GT AGP, and 512 MB of DDR RAM (since the other 512 died). So in order to upgrade to the newer stuff, I'd have to buy a new processor, new mem, and new video card...buying anything more than the GT for AGP is just not worth it, because when I upgrade everything else I'll just have to spend the money over again. And upgrading the whole thing to something noticeably better would cost $600 or so, and right now I'm trying to save up a bit. (It still runs current games decently, it's about 'average')[/q]

There are some Abit and Epox 754 PCIE motherboards out there that will allow you to use the same processor. Although if you are satisfied with your existing system it does probably make sense to wait a bit for M2 to come out in four months or so.

 

Offline Stealth

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Dude, bump up the resolution. HL2 at 12x10 is nothing

right now that's the highest resolution my monitor can support.  new monitor arrives on Wednesday.

and i have 16x AA