[Deepblue]

It's faithful to the book.

I personally thought it was excellent.

[Sandwich]

Sweet! I can't wait!

[BlackDove]

Isn't that for kids?

[Fragrag]

Isn't that for kids?

HERESY

[vyper]

Now there's an ironic post.

[IceFire]

Isn't that for kids?

Only as much as the last Harry Potter movie was for kids.  In a word: no, not really.

[BlackDove]

That's three words. Also, the last Harry Potter movie was for kids, it's just that when something slightly "scary" for children appears, it's immediatly "Adults too". Kid movie, but adults can enjoy as well naturally.

Also I see good reviews, guess it's good.

There have been earlier incarnations of Narnia as far as books and movies go, right? Why are they in the spotlight again?

[pyro-manic]

There hasn't been a film of any of the books before AFAIK. The BBC did an adaptation of TLTWTW a while back, but that's it. I think Radio 4 did a dramatisation of one or more of the books at some point.

And they're making a fuss 'cos they're bloody good books, all of 'em. I'd go so far as to say they're classics, in fact.

[Corsair]

I always really liked The Horse and His Boy and The Voyage of the Dawn Treader as well. I thought those two were really quite good. Haven't read any of them in a long time though, so maybe with a bit more maturity I'd appreciate some of the others more.

Can't wait to see the movie, it really looks fantastic and the book was so much fun.

[Sandwich]

I'm surprised Disney took on something with such an overt Christian message.

[aldo_14]

I'm surprised Disney took on something with such an overt Christian message.

I wouldn't say it was any more of an overt Christian message than, say, the Matrix or Star Wars.  Although CS Lewis did intend it as a supposition (not an allegory as is often wrongly said) for an if, I don't think it's one that is explicitly religious or 'pushing' Christianity per se.  From what I understand, Lewis wanted to express a lot of the ideas that, as an atheist (before he converted - although he regarded aspects of Christianity as being myth based on fact IIRC), he had found foolish or silly outside a fantasy context.  He never intended (he said that the idea he'd come up with a series of allegories was 'pure moonshine') to 'push' Christianity in doing so, it was just a consequence of his own beliefs that the stories paralleled a lot of the Christian mythos.

 And I think within said context of fantasy, it's not a particularly uniquely Christian story.  Theistic ideas, perhaps, but not ones that would push a religion upon the readers. Certainly, I never had any idea the books were suppossed to be in any way religious.  Even when I was still going (albeit unwillingly) to sunday school.

Although what I find more interesting is that CS Lewis apparently objected to the idea of Disney making a film of the books (when he was alive).

[NGTM-1R]

The BBC did an adaptation of TLTWTW a while back, but that's it.

They also did The Silver Chair, Prince Caspian, and Voyage of the Dawn Treader. I remember because here in the US, PBS ran Voyage of the Dawn Treader into the ground.

[IceFire]

That's three words. Also, the last Harry Potter movie was for kids, it's just that when something slightly "scary" for children appears, it's immediatly "Adults too". Kid movie, but adults can enjoy as well naturally.

Also I see good reviews, guess it's good.

There have been earlier incarnations of Narnia as far as books and movies go, right? Why are they in the spotlight again?

Well lets see....I'd say the last Harry Potter was not a kids movie really because of the following:

1) Blood and a fair amount of it
2) Limbs being cut off
3) Sexual inuendo (of the teenage sort)
4) Substance abuse
5) Thematically dark and traumatic

You wouldn't want your 8 year old child going to see that.  They aren't really developmentally ready for that sort of thing.  Its more like a ages 14 and up sort of thing.  It was after all PG-13 so I that makes sense I suppose.  The kids I did see there...many of them left.  The same with Narnia.

You've got death, a fairly convincingly evil baddie, thematically dark in some places, some blood, large and somewhat violent (not overly so) battle scenes.  Now its not like Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire as that was darker than Narnia but again I saw several parents with their obviously terrified youngster leave the theater and all I was thinking is "this is too much for them, they aren't ready and you shouldn't have brought them".

I honestly think that, although it is marketed in such a way to appeal to a young audience, that the people they are hoping to catch are the parents and late teens early 20's (there I am ) because we're the people who read the books.  I read them when they sort of picked up in visibility in the early 1990's...

Anyways...I'll stop blathering now.  I enjoyed the movie...it was good it was faithful to the book as I remember it and it did a good job.  I'm not sure where I put it on my list of favorites this year...its in tough competition with some really great movies like Serenity and the Goblet of Fire.

[BlackDove]

We don't seem to regard the same age group as "kid" age.

Everything below 14 = kid. PG-13 movies are movies for kids that require parental guidance. That's it to that. Now, I wouldn't take an eight year old, but personally an eleven or twelve year olds I think could handle it quite easily and deftly.

Harry Potter are children books and movies FOR kids. Adults are separate, the movie makes most money off of kids, and therefore attempts to target that demographic. Adult movies are adult movies, and that's exluding porn because porn is another subject alltogether.

So from 1 to 5.

1) Who cares?
2) Who cares if it's not graphic, and it wasn't. They didn't show entrails.
3) I must have missed this. They were talking of "love" in regard to Potter and his girlie, and that the dumbass from the other school was after "something else". Kids won't get that if they don't know it already, and if they get it, then they've been educated.
4) I missed this as well. The weed he eats for special powers underwater? Otherwise I can't remember.
5) So what? The world is dark and traumatic. Anyone who hasn't taught his kid by age 11-12 that the world is like that, they aren't doing their job right pure and simple.

This is evidently an issue that's solely based and supported on opinions. There is no "middle" ground here or right vs. wrong  especially with the amount of atrocious parents out there.

However, I'd say that my views are somewhat more realistic in regards to reality - not the MPAA and FCC board of overpaid assholes that define "mature" and "undeveloped".

It's a kids movie.

[vyper]

I saw 11/12 year olds looking gleeful in the cinema during Potter and especially during the more vicious sequences. Most kids love this stuff, they like to be scared and excited. It's an adventure within it's self to see these mvoies.  (or at least that's how I remember scary movies from being a wee boy). In fact, the worst movies I found were the "nice" and "safe" ones.

[aldo_14]

Kids need to learn fear, anyways; it's a necessary part of understanding the bad side of the world.

[Night Hammer]

I just want Harry Potter to turn into some kind of magical Rambo

[vyper]

No you want him to turn into Arnie in Predator, just so he can scream: "Get to tha brooooom!" and of course to yell at Snape "Do eet! Do eeeeeeeet now!"

[FireCrack]

Arnie should be in the last harry potter...

[Deepblue]

Narnia is definitely a family-friendly movie. The only time you see blood is when Edmund is lying on the ground stabbed by the White Witch. Nevertheless, it is delightful.