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Offline Deepblue

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http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26604

Whoa!

(this is not an exclusively xbox thread because it's just showing off some amazing UE3 stuff, even if it is GoW)
« Last Edit: December 15, 2005, 09:02:11 pm by Deepblue »

 

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Looks Great.  Surprisingly the gameplay seems to look good as well as the graphics.
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Offline Deepblue

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Thats the biggest point. Everyone was saying the gameplay would suck even if the graphics are great, but the game has "water cooler moments" down (running up to the door, kicking it down, stumbling across gorey remains/ carts heading into furnace almost.../ locusts climbing on the ceiling above the opposite cart...)

I love the part after they stumble in upon the little critters tearing up the corpses and Cliffy B. is like "This will probably be an M rated game..."
« Last Edit: December 15, 2005, 11:00:26 pm by Deepblue »

 

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Doesn't look too bad thus far, but i'm thinking this is going to end up like PDZ; it'll be fantastic right up to the moment it's released, and turn out to be spectacularly mediocre..

 

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Suoer-size crotchguards for all!

 

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Not really impressive, in my opinion. The only thing that seems nicer than other near-state-of-the-art engines is character animation, and that's mostly a matter of motion capture than anything else. They'll need to do much better than that in the graphics department to get my attention.
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Offline pyro-manic

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It looks ok, though not nearly as spectacular as I was expecting. The sound effects seem pretty poor - especially the shotgun sound - and the graphics, while very nice, don't seem particularly "next-gen" to me. It looks like a top-end PC does at the moment...
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woah, DB pimpimg M$. Didin't expect that..... :blah:

 

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Offline aldo_14

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Quote
(this is not an exclusively xbox thread because it's just showing off some amazing UE3 stuff, even if it is GoW)

Hahahahahahahahahaha

Oh, wait.  You're serious.

I'll laugh harder.

HA HA HA HA HA HA

EDIT;  it's hard to judge visual quality on such poor footage, but I'm not seeing anything that strikes me as stunning.  Better than my Pc, sure, but not better than a good PC.  Um, action wise it looks like it has the sort of nice-but-uninspired gameplay of, say, Call of Duty.  Which is not necessarily a bad thing - Call of Duty was ace - but it's not the sort of groundbreaking next generation stuff we were told to expect.  I'm slightly dissapointed at some of the physics, though; in particular when that car blows up, as it just still looks unnatural.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2005, 02:37:08 pm by aldo_14 »

 

Offline Flipside

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Well, the graphics do look pretty nice to me, but from the looks of it, freedom is a lot more limited than it looks in the game. It looked like one of those games in the arcade game usually called 'Day of the Zombie' or the like, where you have a somewhat droopy plastic gun attacked to the machine. Also, the guy playing it was making sure triggers were only set off once, so no-one said the same thing twice etc, i.e. deliberately presenting it as a movie, rather than a game. Don't blame them at all, you must present your product in the best light, but whilst the game looks good, I'll wait and see ;)

 

Offline CP5670

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This is the one 360 game that actually looks quite interesting to me, and I'm a total PC gamer as far as FPSs go. I bet my brother will get a 360 just for this though. :p

 

Offline aldo_14

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Well, the graphics do look pretty nice to me, but from the looks of it, freedom is a lot more limited than it looks in the game. It looked like one of those games in the arcade game usually called 'Day of the Zombie' or the like, where you have a somewhat droopy plastic gun attacked to the machine. Also, the guy playing it was making sure triggers were only set off once, so no-one said the same thing twice etc, i.e. deliberately presenting it as a movie, rather than a game. Don't blame them at all, you must present your product in the best light, but whilst the game looks good, I'll wait and see ;)

I think it will/should be a good game, myself.  Perhaps a bit generic in setting.  But I don't think it'll offer anything we can't get on Pc or current gen in terms of actual gameplay, which to me is what a killer app (which is surely what the xbox360 needs) should do.

 

Offline Deepblue

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That's exactly why I believe Mass Effect will be a killer app. GoW just proves the X360 is more than capable of outputting next-gen graphics.

 

Offline Mefustae

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That's exactly why I believe Mass Effect will be a killer app. GoW just proves the X360 is more than capable of outputting next-gen graphics.
But that's the thing, they're not true next-gen graphics. We can still get this stuff on high-end PCs with no problem, maybe no my PC - which is an absolute piece of three-year-old **** - but a nice gamers PC would have no qualms pumping out graphics of this quality or better. I'm thinking we'll have to wait at least until the second generation of '360 games comes out to start seeing anything we could term as 'next-gen', as most of the titles so far are just re-hashes with prettier graphics.

Now, what's this 'Mass Effect' you claim could be the first killer app for the '360? I've heard nothing about it, care to post a few links, please?

 

Offline aldo_14

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That's exactly why I believe Mass Effect will be a killer app. GoW just proves the X360 is more than capable of outputting next-gen graphics.
But that's the thing, they're not true next-gen graphics. We can still get this stuff on high-end PCs with no problem, maybe no my PC - which is an absolute piece of three-year-old **** - but a nice gamers PC would have no qualms pumping out graphics of this quality or better. I'm thinking we'll have to wait at least until the second generation of '360 games comes out to start seeing anything we could term as 'next-gen', as most of the titles so far are just re-hashes with prettier graphics.

Now, what's this 'Mass Effect' you claim could be the first killer app for the '360? I've heard nothing about it, care to post a few links, please?

IIRC it's a promising looking sci-fi RPG from BioWare. I think maybe with a FPS view, not sure.

It is true, though, that a Pc should surpass the next gen in less than a year; for example the U3 engine should be easily runnable on a mid 2006 PC (if perhaps not an affordable one).  If we ignore the whole resolution thing - because most people don't have HDTVs, what with the insane cost - I think you can already get comparable lower resolution graphics on a mid-to-high end modern PC.

Although it's worth noting that the PS3 reportedly ran the Unreal3 demo epic made using only about 30-40% of it's performance, so both that and the xbox360 should be considered far from at peak.  Albeit that has to be taken with an additional pinch of salt, because of the creational demands of such graphics - just look at the utterly, utterly awful Fifa2006 on the Xbox360 for that, which not only has ****ty zombie graphics but more importantly lots of stuff cut from the current gen versions. The danger is that for the luxury of specular mapped dashboards and bumpmapped stiching on uniforms, we'll see a rapidly thinning group of titles which becomes constrained to franchises and sequels.

That's why I'm most interested in the Revolution, to be honest.  It promises actual innovation rather than this sort of (highly visible) diminishing returns.  Plus it reportedly uses a very similar setup to the Gamecube, making development quick and easy; i.e. so we should see its - graphical - potential tapped quicker than the other next gen consoles, even if said potential (in terms of processing power et al) is lesser.  Although so far, no next gen game I've seen on any format has made me actually want it (it being the game or the console).

 
Gears of War: another possible good game that will probably never see the PC...

Even so, don't expect me to shell out for a 360 just to play this. I've got enough good games.

Such as Descent 1 and 2, Quake 2, Freespace 1 and 2, Diablo 2, Starcraft, Warzone 2100...
Why is it that all of those are more than five years old?
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Offline Deepblue

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aldo_14: I think that oppinion is colored by the low quality video, because some of the screens I've seen are simply not possible at this point in time.



I can't think of one PC game you can get right now that looks that good.

It's an exclusive space odyssey RPG trilogy by Bioware. It looks gorgeous but sounds like it will play even better.

http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1325/Mass-Effect/

 

Offline Deepblue

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Well, the graphics do look pretty nice to me, but from the looks of it, freedom is a lot more limited than it looks in the game. It looked like one of those games in the arcade game usually called 'Day of the Zombie' or the like, where you have a somewhat droopy plastic gun attacked to the machine. Also, the guy playing it was making sure triggers were only set off once, so no-one said the same thing twice etc, i.e. deliberately presenting it as a movie, rather than a game. Don't blame them at all, you must present your product in the best light, but whilst the game looks good, I'll wait and see ;)

Not true. The game has multiple paths according to Cliffy B. In fact during co-op (which should be a bloody blast) you can split up with Dom and go seperate ways.

 

Offline Deepblue

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Gears of War: another possible good game that will probably never see the PC...

Even so, don't expect me to shell out for a 360 just to play this. I've got enough good games.

Such as Descent 1 and 2, Quake 2, Freespace 1 and 2, Diablo 2, Starcraft, Warzone 2100...
Why is it that all of those are more than five years old?

You don't have D3?

Get. It. Now.

And yeah, old games are fun. But so are new games.