Author Topic: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.  (Read 5341 times)

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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
If they manage to read the license plates properly, they'd only record the plate, the date, and the camera ID, as Kara said. That would be about 38 bytes (12 for the plate, 16 for the timestamp, and 10 for the camera. I'm allowing for 10^10 camera;s here.) Saying there's a camera every mile, you'd meet 60 for every hour your drove (more or less), and even spending 24 hours behind the wheel a day would leave you with 60*24*38=54kb per day per car. that's easy to store. In reality, going for two hours a day is more likely, making 4,5kb. Even when there are 10 million cars (number out of thin air), you'd have 4,5*10.000=45000kb meaing 45 MB a day. 16GB a year. That means that I could store about 5 years of data on my own HD. And I'm sure that I've been pessmistic on some parts of that calculation.

To find out the movements of someone in the last 24 hours, this'd be sufficient:
SELECT * FROM `1984db` WHERE `licence`LIKE "AB-CD-55" AND `date `LIKE ` '11362%%%%%' ORDER BY `date`.

If you want to get someones movements for the last five years, just remove  AND `date `LIKE ` '11362%%%%%' and there you are.

And then you'd have a record of every camera post where that car has been spotted. Not all that hard to plot that to a map either.... Do you really want it to be that easy for someone to track you?
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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
Saying there's a camera every mile

I doubt they'd even need that many. The first place they're putting these things is on the motorways after all. You only need camera's at the junctions there cause unless someone decided to drive over the hard shoulder and go cross country that's the only place you can get on or off the motorway.

But you've done a good job proving my point about how little space you'd need even with a ridiculously high number of cameras.
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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
So if you go for a camera every ten miles, I could store 50 years of data on my own little HD.

The point is indeed that if someone is willing to shell out on the hardware, and has licence plates in place as a good, unique ID, it'll be this easy.

If you add a credit-card check on public transport stuff, or that ID card with some readers everywhere, you'd have the same amount of data per checkpoint, and if you go by my original estimate of the amount of cameras and stuff, you'd still only need a consumer-level HD to store the movements of everyone. But then, not just for cars, but also public transport.
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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
I say you Brits bring back the proud tradition of solving your political problems more...directly. Power to the people!

  

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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
What, the same Guy Fawkes that wanted to place a puppet ruler on the throne and 'blow the Scots back into Scotland'?

 

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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
Actually, I meant that you should all grow fancy facial hair as a symbol of protest against the unjust opression by your government. But your thing works too.

 

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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
"Remember remember the 5th of November."
lol wtf

 

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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
Why, is it your birthday?

 

Offline Janos

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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
lol wtf

 

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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
Is it my birthday?

 

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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
Maybe!
lol wtf

 

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Re: Something is rotten in the state of Britain.
If you check my posts carefulyl then you might realise that I'm not against CCTV, but I am against storing data liek that. 2 Years???
Well , if you're folling a suspected terrorist storing HIS data for so long  does sound sound..but everyones? THAT I am allso against.
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