[TrashMan]

You prolly all remember the higer-poly Athena model (with mediocre texturing at best) and hte hi-poly Phoenix model (which i never finished)

Well, the reason why I have been holding back is - I was looking into UVMapping in 3DMax and making cockpits so I can make them REALLY good.
I mastered texturing in 3D max, and I have the great Athena Texture from FS2 port to start with and I allso got hold of the cockpit model.

Now all I need is to take a look at  one-two "cockpitized" fighters to see how the cockpit is modeled in and I'm ready to go.

If anyone can reccomend a really good fighter example (and a link to download it..I'm NOT downloading hte models VP, it's huge) or give a few suggestions/tip, I would appreciate it very much

[Fineus]

I'm all for inspiring creative work. Here's the Ares model (ripped straight from the VP you didn't want to download). It should be complete.

http://www.zen8740.zen.co.uk/Ares.zip

[Roanoke]

I mastered texturing in 3D max, and I have the great Athena Texture from FS2 port to start with and I allso got hold of the cockpit model.

At the risk of starting an argument, I take exception to that statement without anything to back it up.

[Taristin]

I mastered texturing in 3D max, and I have the great Athena Texture from FS2 port to start with and I allso got hold of the cockpit model.

At the risk of starting an argument, I take exception to that statement without anything to back it up.

he does that a lot. ignore it.


Kal; Glad to see you liked my implementation enough to choose it over, say, the perseus.

[TrashMan]

I mastered texturing in 3D max, and I have the great Athena Texture from FS2 port to start with and I allso got hold of the cockpit model.

At the risk of starting an argument, I take exception to that statement without anything to back it up.

I don't think you understand - up untill now I didn't know how to UV map in 3D max AT ALL. I just recently finished some tutorials. Up untill now I only used Lithium Unwrapper.
This allso means I can now use more spread out textures.. Of course, I still plan to devide fighter texture on as little pieces as possible without hurting the texture and mapping...

I guess well see how it turns out.

@Kalfireth - 404 on your link

[Roanoke]

I mastered texturing in 3D max, and I have the great Athena Texture from FS2 port to start with and I allso got hold of the cockpit model.

At the risk of starting an argument, I take exception to that statement without anything to back it up.

he does that a lot. ignore it.

yeah, well.

[StratComm]

I think the notion that you have completely "mastered texturing in 3DS Max" is genuinely laughable.  One can spend years working with Max and still not have anywhere near a mastery.  If you've figured it out on a basic level, then great.  One less tool to have to use.  But don't go around claiming you've mastered it unless you want to get a bunch of sarcastic comments

[Roanoke]

stop it.  we've covered this ground before. several times 

[Fineus]

@Kalfireth - 404 on your link

Pardon me, looks like it was case sensitive. It's fixed now.

And everyone, please keep it civil. We're here to support the learning and mod development process here.

[Roanoke]

Well someone who posts "I've mastered such and such" is frankly asking for it. Oops, I'm at it now. 

[TrashMan]

I think the notion that you have completely "mastered texturing in 3DS Max" is genuinely laughable.  One can spend years working with Max and still not have anywhere near a mastery.  If you've figured it out on a basic level, then great.  One less tool to have to use.  But don't go around claiming you've mastered it unless you want to get a bunch of sarcastic comments

AS far as I recall mastered something has a double meaning. In tearms that you crossed an obstacle or in tearms that you become an expert in something. Hell, english is not my native language,  and when I wrote that my intention was NOT to bragg, but to ask for advice. When it comes to cockpits, I'm still a newb. Havn't made a single one yet.

It's interesting how you're just waiting to jump on anything I sad, like a vulture on a corpse. Perhaps you should spend your time more productive insted of scanning my every word?

@Kal
Thanx

[StratComm]

Amazing how easily things get misinterpreted.  Back to comments on the Athena, whenever the first pics of it show up.  Everything here between Trashman and I can continue via PM if needed.

[TrashMan]

Here's a fst render of hte cockpit I made for the Phoenix.. yes, a two-seater.. fS2 ships are roughly 20m long

http://dj.rogueserv.com/TRASHMAN/Pics/

look for cockpit1.JPG and cockpit2.JPG

[Sheepy]

T'is very good start by my eye, good to see you made differences between the pilot and co-pilot consouls. Only thing i would suggest is tweeking the 'outsides' a bit, i know theres not supposed to be anything along the sides but the texture looks a bit hideous tiled as it as at the moment.
Also i would look at forming the consoul around the pilots' legs at the moment, looks a tad hack slash just sat in a box, saying that it could be pointless detail, up to you i guess.

Keep it up

[TrashMan]

Thanx fo the critics. I'll fix those things.

[TrashMan]

Refreshed the first 2 pics and added cockpit3.jpg (Athena cockpit).

Been a busy week

[Admiral Nelson]

It's nice to see the Athena get some attention.  But wasn't your older model an Athena Mk II or some such non canon craft?  Even the existing aAthena model would look good with a decent cockpit added.

[Taristin]

*wonders how the second pilot can see anything in that configuration* *shrugs* Coming along...

[Flipside]

... Worked for Ernest Borgnine in Airwolf

[TrashMan]

It's nice to see the Athena get some attention.  But wasn't your older model an Athena Mk II or some such non canon craft?  Even the existing aAthena model would look good with a decent cockpit added.

Well, this IS the Athena Adv model.. It's allmost completely hte same as the original Athena, the only differences are a few small details on the wings and the 3rd missile launcher on the belly.
All those differences can be removed in 5 minutes and you get a normal Athena.
I havn't stared mapping it yet, not much time to spare right now.