Author Topic: what flavor of linux is best to run the scp on? (Read 3487 times)

Nuke · **on:** January 18, 2006, 03:54:10 pm

i managed to resotre my old machine from the scapheap it once was. but i really dont need a second windows box, and there are a few linux apps id like to be able to run. i still want to be able to run the scp on it though. kaz reccomended fedora but i wanted to get more opinions on the matter first. what linux is the best for the scp? also i seem to lack any means of installing it at the moment, im out of blank cds and it doesnt have a nic. all i have is my cheapy little 512 meg mp3 player to transfer files (il proibly have to do put it into a spanned archive format and make multiple trips). is it possible to install linux from a virtually mounted iso file?

Goober5000 · **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2006, 04:07:29 pm

LFS FTW!!!!11

WMCoolmon · **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2006, 04:32:42 pm

Ubuntu/kubuntu should be able to run it without needing anything overly bizarre.

Mr_Maniac · **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2006, 06:50:57 pm

I think any Linux-Distro with OpenAL, OGG Vorbis, OpenGL, SDL and GCC (did I forget something?) should do it...
I use Gentoo and it runs fine there...

Nuke · **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2006, 12:14:30 pm

could anyne recomend a particular linux, something that isnt too big, less than 500 megs and can run the scp. ive been spending all day looking at linux distros and im stumped by the fact that theres so many of them out there.

taylor · **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2006, 04:00:53 pm

Try to stick with either Fedora, Ubuntu, or Gentoo if at all possible. Ignore the rest unless you are already pretty familiar with Linux or Unix in general. And forget 500 megs, it will probably take that just for the build environment, then you still need X and some sort of desktop. You'll really need to have a least 3gig for everything (all programs, a swap partition, home directory space, and a build location for fs2_open), assuming that you are going to use another partition for actually storing the game files. The partition that the game is on doesn't have to be writeable, only readable, so that gives you some options for layout.

WMCoolmon · **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2006, 04:19:28 pm

Ahh, in that case...don't use Gentoo. Just, don't. Installation can literally take 24 hours, and when I tried it, there were errors in the installation instructions that were a PITA to figure out how to fix. Use anoyther Linux distro before Gentoo.

As far as small goes, most Linux installations are bigger than 500 MB, but include movie players, office programs, etc.

Nuke · **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2006, 05:02:58 pm

yea i just picked up a few more blank cds. i figured it would be rather large. i think il just stick with fedora for now. thanks for everyone's suggestions.

do i need all 4 fedora cds or just the first one? i remember when i installed mandrake linux a long time ago it said i needed all the cds but it really only asked for the first one. i dont want to really download anything i dont need, seeing as i do have a monthly download cap.

taylor · **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2006, 06:37:11 pm

Quote from: Nuke on January 19, 2006, 05:02:58 pm

do i need all 4 fedora cds or just the first one?

It depends on what you install. I think you'll use at least the first two, but in can pick some packages off of any CD and I'm not sure how the layout is setup in current releases to say which CD you'll need to install what.

Nuke · **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2006, 07:10:07 pm

the installer said i only need the first 2, i guess the others are just for server installations.

WMCoolmon · **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2006, 10:05:58 pm

There are cutscenes on all 3.

Nuke · **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2006, 01:51:35 am

i ended up downloaing all 4 cds. even though i only used 2 of them. also had to get me a network card for the machine because not having internet makes installing stuff damn near impossible. im installing it for the second time now. the first time i couldnt get into my former d drive, this time im formatting it all together. im still gonna need to transfer files from my windows machine to my linux machine via a crossover cable. that should be pretty tricky, cause ive disabled so many serveces in windows that the networking wizzards refuse to work, and the fact that i dont know jack about linux networking. they musta did that the night i skipped class to go to a bar

im rather impressed with the speed increase over xp. i also like the way the linux people name things.

Nuke · **Reply #12 on:** January 20, 2006, 04:51:09 am

now im trying to figure out how to install the nvidia drivers for the geforce 4. the driver instructions tell me to close the x server, now if i do that it wont give me a terminal window to run the command. this is quite annoying. how do iboot to a terminal without loading the x server. by now youre all thinking that hes too stupid to be using linux and youre probibly right. but im sure that with youre guys' help i can wing it.

taylor · **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2006, 09:56:51 am

The NVIDIA drivers are actually a pain to install so I don't think anyone can say anything negative about you having trouble with those.

Here is what I do:
1) hit Alt-F1 to switch to the main console
2) log in as the root user
3) type "telinit 3" and press enter then wait a little bit (X will get shut down and you'll see some things happen) before pressing enter again, run the NVIDIA installer and do what it says (it may want to configure X for you, if you haven't done so already then just say ok)
4) back at the prompt type "telinit 5 && exit" which should start X back up

There is another option though and it may be easier for you to manage in the long run, use the livna yum repository and have the packages installed there. I am assuming you are using Fedora Core 4 since 5 isn't anything but beta right now. Just go to http://rpm.livna.org/configuration.html and use the FC4 installation instructions for yum (very simple, you shouldn't have a problem). Then as root do "yum update" to bring your system to current (this might download a lot so be aware), and then do "yum install kernel-module-nvidia-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4 nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-devel" and the driver should be installed for you. After you have it installed you should just be able to do "yum update" in the future and it will keep it all up to date for you. I don't really use this method (habit, just never have) but it's no doubt easier than what I normally do, however I can't really give first hand experience on how well this method works between updates.

Nuke · **Reply #14 on:** January 20, 2006, 03:35:27 pm

the installer says it needs to have gcc installed to compile the drivers, wich i intalled off of cd3. even then it refused to work, so now im trying the second solution you gave. hopefully it will work.

yep, i think that got it, thanks for your help.

Nuke · **Reply #15 on:** January 20, 2006, 04:56:33 pm

ok, next problem, when i go to install fsopen and type ./configure, as the instructions in the xplat forum say, it starts doing stuff but then it sais it cant find a compiler. ive already installed gcc but it cant seem to find it. essentially i get this.

[root@001217570254 fs2_open-3.6.7]# ./configure
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl... no
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details.
[root@001217570254 fs2_open-3.6.7]#

taylor · **Reply #16 on:** January 20, 2006, 06:04:07 pm

You've got both the gcc and gcc-g++ packages installed? ("rpm -q -a | grep gcc | sort")

Nuke · **Reply #17 on:** January 20, 2006, 09:58:36 pm

yup, i downloded both of those and used that command but it still refuses to see that its there. is the directory i run the command from mater?

Nuke · **Reply #18 on:** January 22, 2006, 02:12:57 pm

i think i made somre progress, i finqally got the config command to ***** about missing opengl and sdl libs. so where do i get those libs from?

i think i solved that problem. anywqay i went to run the make command and it started doing stuff but gave me error 127 and immedeatly crashed.

taylor · **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2006, 02:56:50 pm

Make sure to run ./autogen.sh again. If that doesn't help then post the exact error message you got.

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