[Nico]

 

Originally posted by MD-2389:
WRONG!

The Asus A7M166 has an AMD chipset in it. (the 761 if memory serves).  The original Athlon motherboards had an AMD chipset in them.  VIA didn't show up until the T-bird's and Durons came out.

yeah, but you"'re talking about old useless mobbys.

[Griffon UK]

VIA chipsets are fine as long as you install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers (instead of letting the motherboard manage itself)...



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[Nico]

 

Originally posted by Griffon UK:
VIA chipsets are fine as long as you install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers (instead of letting the motherboard manage itself)...

Yeah, but first you have to figure this out,and you find yourself with a comp that runs half the components, you don't even know why (heh, it's my first AMD   )

[Griffon UK]

 

Originally posted by venom2506:
Yeah, but first you have to figure this out,and you find yourself with a comp that runs half the components, you don't even know why (heh, it's my first AMD   )

good point  

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[Xelion]

Well considering I'm at my friends place I've decided to post a bit.

Ok now I've read some but not all of the topic because I ain't got much time. Though the Pentium4 2GHz looks meaningful to drool over it's not something some people would do! Apparently after recent benchmarks the P4 2GHz only beats the output of the thunderbird 1.4GHz by a few points. So my advice would be to invest in AMD processors rather than intel not unless you prefer the other.
Well I'll see you peoples l8ers

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[Nico]

 

Originally posted by Griffon UK:
VIA chipsets are fine as long as you install VIA's 4-in-1 drivers

talking of that, the last one just came out, and it's excellent, my boot sequence even goes faster  

[Griffon UK]

 

Originally posted by Max:
So my advice would be to invest in AMD processors rather than intel not unless you prefer the other.

pretty bogus advice...

the Pentium IV possitively outperforms Thunderbirds when involved in high-detail CAD work...

its just in office apps & games that the processors capabilites are hardly touched...

the Thunderbird is based on older standard architecture, meaning it works better with the current Windows 9x & NT based kernels...
(Whether the Pentium 4 functions better in XP, i dunno)

anyone can correct me if they want  

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[Vertigo1]

 

Originally posted by venom2506:
yeah, but you"'re talking about old useless mobbys.

Umm, since when are DDR motherboards old and useless?

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[Xelion]

     

Originally posted by Griffon UK:
pretty bogus advice...
the Pentium IV possitively outperforms Thunderbirds when involved in high-detail CAD work...

I don't think so! check this out?
 http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_863_2003~3154,00.html

Okay I know it isn't the P4 2GHz though I think it'll roughly be the same benchmarks.
haha, I win!

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[This message has been edited by Max (edited 09-26-2001).]

[wEvil]

OK...the P4 sucks ***  and this is why:

* Only DRDRAM and SDRAM platforms that cant take advantage of netburst

* IPC (Instructions per clocksycycle) is very low.  Its like having two runners, the athlon guy has 3 foot long legs and the P4 guy has 1 inch long legs.  the p4 has to take many more steps to travel the same distance.

* Latency.  Even with the trace cache, the P4 still has chronic data jam problems and spends most of the time twiddling its thumbs waiting for the incontenent RDRAM to get the data to the processor bus.

and finally..

* Power consumption.  You need a 460 watt WTX power supply to run a P4 with stability.  Do you have any idea of how hot these things get?  

So overall the P4 can be summed up like this;

A high clockspeed LOW PERFORMANCE processor with ineffecient physical design leading to thermal problems and a bad cost/performance ratio.

Buy AMD, intel can afford to screw up and do you think they're competitive when amd is 10% of the size of intel?

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[aldo_14]

According to my first C.A.D.  (computer architecture and design) lecture of the day, the main reason is that AMD's processors relegate most of the comp-lex tasks to the compiler, making the design less complex (less assembly language commands) - aka RISC becomes Relegate Important Stuff to Compiler.  Whereas the P4 is theoretically faster, but the compiler is slower than AMDs so it runs slower than is fully possible.  Apparently Intel's looking into it's compiler tech to try and fix it....

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[Setekh]

 

Originally posted by Jabu:
Who doesn't know? Works with minimal power. I haven't heard much from that direction recently, almost nothing uses Transmeta processors, and I haven't heard of any faster ones comíng out anyway.

That's what I mean. Last I heard about that was months ago, and nothing since then - pity, it was a really interesting concept.

[Akira]

That is the one prob with AMD .... The Chipsets blow a$$. I'm not gonna touch an AMD till a good chipset comes out, not this VIA sh!t. I heard the new AMD 761 chipset was pretty good. But I'm using a 440BX chipset right now and I want the same kind of stability. There is that new nVidia chipset coming out, nForce, I might get that. I dunno i'll wait and see what happens in the next couple months.

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[Jabu]

 

Originally posted by Setekh:
That's what I mean. Last I heard about that was months ago, and nothing since then - pity, it was a really interesting concept.

A local computer mag which I've subscribed (Finns are interested in Transmeta, just 'cos Linus Torvalds, godlike creator of Linux and a Finn, works there), told in it's newest issue (1st October) that Transmeta is bringing out 1 GHz Crusoes soon.

[Vertigo1]

 

Originally posted by Akira:
That is the one prob with AMD .... The Chipsets blow a$$. I'm not gonna touch an AMD till a good chipset comes out, not this VIA sh!t. I heard the new AMD 761 chipset was pretty good. But I'm using a 440BX chipset right now and I want the same kind of stability. There is that new nVidia chipset coming out, nForce, I might get that. I dunno i'll wait and see what happens in the next couple months.

The VIA KT266 has been getting excellent reviews so far.  I'm still rooting for the AMD 761 though.  Yeah, I'm happy with my KT133 on my Asus A7V...but I'm always gonna want something better.  

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[Nico]

the latest VIA drivers are trully excellent, btw

[Setekh]

 

Originally posted by Jabu:
A local computer mag which I've subscribed (Finns are interested in Transmeta, just 'cos Linus Torvalds, godlike creator of Linux and a Finn, works there), told in it's newest issue (1st October) that Transmeta is bringing out 1 GHz Crusoes soon.

W3rd. Keep an eye on 'em for me, will ya?