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Offline vyper

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The White House Memo - aka getting caught red handed...
on: February 02, 2006, 01:22:43 pm
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-reports/special-reports-storypage.jsp?id=1661

[q]Channel 4 News tonight reveals extraordinary details of George Bush and Tony Blair's pre-war meeting in January 2003 at which they discussed plans to begin military action on March 10th 2003, irrespective of whether the United Nations had passed a new resolution authorising the use of force.

Channel 4 News has seen minutes from that meeting, which took place in the White House on 31 January 2003. The two leaders discussed the possibility of securing further UN support, but President Bush made it clear that he had already decided to go to war. The details are contained in a new version of the book 'Lawless World' written by a leading British human rights lawyer, Philippe Sands QC.[/q]
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Offline vyper

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Re: The White House Memo - aka getting caught red
Reply #1 on: February 02, 2006, 01:33:54 pm
Allow me to entice you to read the full article. They talked about sending spy planes in UN colours over Iraq to provoke him, bringing out a "defector" with proof of WMD, etc.
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Re: The White House Memo - aka getting caught red handed...
Reply #2 on: February 02, 2006, 01:54:33 pm
Well, well, well. The plot thickens. Now if only someone would do Bush like they did Nixon....
 

Offline kasperl

Re: The White House Memo - aka getting caught red
Reply #3 on: February 02, 2006, 01:57:37 pm
Allow me to say: "Well duh". (Not to sound like an MTV watching drama queen....)

Anyways, I can't say I'm surprised. The UN colours thing is suprising me though: Since when are fighter aircraft identified by anything but a symbol on the wing/fuselage/tail? And since when can you actually see something at the hight of a U2, instead of just use rader?
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Re: The White House Memo - aka getting caught red handed...
Reply #4 on: February 02, 2006, 02:04:57 pm
In case it gets shot down...which they might've been expecting/hoping for. Any word on this being picked up by major news agencies?
 

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Reply #5 on: February 09, 2006, 07:44:35 am
Quote from: Unknown Target on February 02, 2006, 02:04:57 pm
In case it gets shot down...which they might've been expecting/hoping for. Any word on this being picked up by major news agencies?

It was in the UK.  Like, er, Channel 4 news.
 

Offline Prophet

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Re: The White House Memo - aka getting caught red handed...
Reply #6 on: February 09, 2006, 08:00:39 am
Channel 4... What's that? :p
Seriously I am perhaps aware of UK and US news agencies, but I really couldn't care less. Want to know why? We have our own news!!!1!11
They'll tell any international stroy that relevant around these parts. And in my own language.

The term "major news agency" is misleading. They are major only because they happen to be in large countries and have lots of viewers. That doesn't make them better (more right than some smaller news service) in any way. Not that I am saying any of would claim that...
Thought I am not sure what Unknown Target meant in his post.
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Offline aldo_14

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Re: The White House Memo - aka getting caught red
Reply #7 on: February 09, 2006, 08:08:33 am
Quote from: Prophet on February 09, 2006, 08:00:39 am
Channel 4... What's that? :p
Seriously I am perhaps aware of UK and US news agencies, but I really couldn't care less. Want to know why? We have our own news!!!1!11
They'll tell any international stroy that relevant around these parts. And in my own language.

The term "major news agency" is misleading. They are major only because they happen to be in large countries and have lots of viewers. That doesn't make them better (more right than some smaller news service) in any way. Not that I am saying any of would claim that...
Thought I am not sure what Unknown Target meant in his post.

I suspect he meant US news agencies.  'Major' is a very national-centric concept, as you said; even the likes of CNN and BBC Worldwide are inevitably tailored towards their source country.  I guess the importance is that their coverage means whatever they carry, goes a lot further than it would from a domestic broadcaster, and thus has far more wide-ranging repercussions.
 

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Reply #8 on: February 09, 2006, 12:19:31 pm
By major I suspect he simply meant reputable. Channel 4 News qualify as that. They seem to do a pretty good job of staying fairly objective.
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Reply #9 on: February 09, 2006, 12:22:03 pm
Quote from: karajorma on February 09, 2006, 12:19:31 pm
By major I suspect he simply meant reputable. Channel 4 News qualify as that. They seem to do a pretty good job of staying fairly objective.

Trishnan Guru Murhpys' (sp?) interviews at lunchtime tend to be quite good; he's not afraid to challenge people.
 

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Reply #10 on: February 09, 2006, 12:30:52 pm
Good. I like that in an interviewer. If you're not prepared to challenge a politician when you suspect that they are lying then you have no business doing political interviews.
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Re: The White House Memo - aka getting caught red
Reply #11 on: February 09, 2006, 12:46:09 pm
Personally, I'm waiting for a reporter who holds a '45 to the politicians head and says sweetly, 'Are you screwing with me? Cos we voted for you mo'fukka!, It's our money you're spending, we earned it, not you.'

Just to remind them of it since it seems to have slipped their minds ;)

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