[BlackDove]

Five minutes into it, Vasudan Ace anyone?

I mean, I know they aren't copying FreeSpace, and that FreeSpace most likely copied the concept from someone else, but dang, that's the first thing that popped into my mind considering that's the only instance where the hostile AI in FS was treated as a "special character". Well that and the Arjuna, but that was different.

Thoughts?

Oh right, this is a Battlestar Galactica thread so we're without confusion. A late one at that, considering this was last week and the new one airs today... or it did already... whatever.

[aldo_14]

SAAB; Chiggy Von Richtofen

[BlackDove]

SAAB; Chiggy Von Richtofen

I see.

[Ace]

You weren't the only one.

The whole 'asteroids' thing sort of added to it.

Anyway we need more 'Wing Commander-esque' episodes like this and 'The Hand of God'

[BlackDove]

Right, didn't even occur to me about the asteroids, probably too subliminal for me to notice (ie I'm retarded).

Aye, we really need more episodes like this one, though rendering all that combat must be expensive and tasking.

[FireCrack]

Me too, instantly thaught of it.

[IceFire]

This the latest episode of BSG or what?  And yeah...big fancy super ace enemy pilot?  Definately from SAAB.  Chiggy Von Richtofen was I think my favourite episode of the whole thing.

[neo_hermes]

Best Ace Evar.

[Unknown Target]

Or, you know, they could've ripped it from Real Life^TM, cause, you know, it's a pretty common theme in that.
But yea, good episode.

[Nuke]

indeed, that has got to be one of the best episodes of this season this far.

[Ford Prefect]

Aye, we really need more episodes like this one, though rendering all that combat must be expensive and tasking.

Oh please. The last thing I want is to see BSG decay into more masturbation fodder for techno-junkies. It's a sociopolitical drama, not ****ing Stargate.

Oh, and incidentally:

Spoiler:

THEY KILLED BILLY. HOW THE **** COULD THEY KILL BILLY?! HOW COULD THEY DO THAT TO ME? I DON'T ****ING BELIEVE THEY KILLED BILLY!

[Nuke]

indeed. the show isnt nearly s much about space ships shooting at eachoter and long 30 minute combat scenes. although they are fun on occasion, overuse of such plotlines wil result in the degradation of plot as you can see in both starwars and startrek, as well as the way its been going with both stargates. the only reason i like atlantis is because its funny, sg1 sucks because mcguyver left the show and the whole thing with the ori seems abit redundan t to me. bsg on the otherhand maintains the drama, has very intresting characters, and just loaded with plot twists. the show is just too god damn good to be called scifi.

funny i think i just agreed with opposing opinions. good thing i dont give a frak.

[Mefustae]

AAHH! MY EYES!! SPOILERED!!! Curse my inquisitive nature!!

*Commits suicide*

[IceFire]

indeed. the show isnt nearly s much about space ships shooting at eachoter and long 30 minute combat scenes. although they are fun on occasion, overuse of such plotlines wil result in the degradation of plot as you can see in both starwars and startrek, as well as the way its been going with both stargates. the only reason i like atlantis is because its funny, sg1 sucks because mcguyver left the show and the whole thing with the ori seems abit redundan t to me. bsg on the otherhand maintains the drama, has very intresting characters, and just loaded with plot twists. the show is just too god damn good to be called scifi.

funny i think i just agreed with opposing opinions. good thing i dont give a frak.

This is true...BSG is much more of a social comentary on the world than a out and out sci-fi technobable show.  Atlantis and SG-1 do this as well but the way they approach the theme is different.  I like all three to be quite honest and I'm very happy to be able to sit down and watch them when I do get the chance and they do air them or make them available on DVD here.

As for long combat sequences...I haven't seen this episode yet....Canadian viewers are still several episodes behind you folks...but I imagine it would be quite alright to do this sort of thing once in a while.  BSG has some of the coolest space combat since Babylon 5 ended and its so exceptionally well done that it'd be a shame to keep it locked in the closet all of the time.  As long as the story doesn't take a back seat.  It has to drive everything, even these types of sequences.

[BlackDove]

Aye, we really need more episodes like this one, though rendering all that combat must be expensive and tasking.

Oh please. The last thing I want is to see BSG decay into more masturbation fodder for techno-junkies. It's a sociopolitical drama, not ****ing Stargate.

**** a sociopolitical drama without a good bang.

[WMCoolmon]

I actually found all three episodes to be a bit meh.

Spoiler:

First of all, Stargate started with one of those "4 hours ago" things. Then they just reused that same footage later on in the episode.

Conveniently enough, the Odyssey was nearly ready when Ba'al started stealing Stargates. Apparently, earth has somehow gained 'subspace locator beacons' which are currently indetectable by most anybody else. I was also vaguely annoyed that the Odyssey looked exactly like the Daedalus...although it's unrealistic, it would've been nice to have a different design, to set the two ships apart. But even then, apparently, the Daedalus still uses locator beacons even though, apparently, Earth has access to Asguard sensors that don't need the locator beacons.

The only really surprising thing about that episode was when Nerus disabled the shields. But even that didn't make any sense...apparently he came to some kind of agreement with Earth, but what did he expect to get in return? I was also disappointed that they didn't take advantage of the addictive corn...

I just didn't find any relevance of Atlantis to RL. It just seemed to be an episode to get the people on the show to trust Caldwell.

And BSG was another hostage ep. The only twist was that Billy died, and even that wasn't truly surprising because 3/4 of the "previously on BSG" clips had him in them, and he suddenly became a major point in the episode, so I was expecting some kind of major twist with his character. And it was another hostage ep. It got a little interesting when Lee started crawling around in the thing.

I'm starting to wonder why Galactica seems to be spending such massive amounts of fuel to keep ferrying people from it to Cloud Nine, and why they keep going to that one bar.

Also, they completely ignored Pegasus. Again.

[Ace]

Well Nerus didn't strike a deal, his toys got infected with a virus. That's why he was mumbling that the General was smarter than he thought.

...and yes even some token Pegasus references like in the last episode would have been nice such as "Pegasus is on the line" (cut to Peg bridge and CO#3) "We have a marine detachment ready to fry those frakkers!" "No thanks, we'll handle this."

[Akalamanaia]

The subspace locator beacons have been there before this episode, Jackson had one on his wrist or leg on Ethon.
And they existed even before that..
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[ontopic]
i stopped watching BSG right after the first episode, to diffrent compared to original, and i could see what the startup was leading to.

[Dough with Fish]

Yes, yes, yes, BSG had yet another great episode this week...

Spoiler:

And actually the thing that surprised me the most was how Starbuck shot... FRAKING SHOT Lee. That was really unexpected. And Billys death was very tragic, yes. But this actually made me think of something. You know how Adama asked Sharon if she would tell him who the Cylons were in the fleet, and she said she wouldn't... I wonder that maybe Billy is a Cylon? Just a thought

And, after watching the goodness that is BSG and Lost, am I the only one who thinks that they should have cut the cord on SG1? I mean the show compared to the likes of BSG is soooo damned cheesey. They are so predictable it's disgusting. On top of that, they are basically recycling old stories and plots with a few minor details changed. Whoop dee doo. I liked SG1 when there was, ya'know, actual danger and suspense and plots. Now it's just technobabble crap mixed with generic Star Trek-esuq planets. I say someone should put the show out of its misery.

[NGTM-1R]

People have theorized that about Billy before, but he's awful...incompetent, for that. IMO.