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Offline aldo_14

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When I went to America the year after 9/11 I got stopped a couple of times at the airport. I said to myself that if I got stopped in the UK I was going to loudly ask if "Is it cause I is black" in my best Ali G accent :)

Yeah, if you did that in the US they'd probably shoot you, cavity search you, or cavity search and then shoot you.

 

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Yep. Which is why I wasn't dumb enough to say it there :)
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BTW, Splinter, when we got stopped it was because our tickets were flagged; remember I learned to spot the flag and went up to the gate security guy, handed him our tickets, and told him he needed to take us aside for a random security check? ;) They flagged the tickets because we were flying domestically, but the tickets had been bought overseas.

Anyway, racial profiling, and to a greater extent behavioral profiling, saves lives every day here. I've absolutely no qualms with being asked how I'm doing by a security guard every time I try to board a bus here (my main mode of transportation, which I take at least twice a day) - he's getting me to talk in order to ascertain both my accent (to make sure it's not an Arabic accent) as well as my response to being confronted (am I cool with it, do I get defensive or nervous, etc).

Neither do I have qualms about having my bag searched and having to walk through a metal detector gate thingy every time I enter or leave the (crappy old) mall/office complex I work in. I know most of the security guards, they know me, and I'm very grateful that they still search my bag (everyone's bags get searched) - I'd rather not have some Arab worker in the building form a friendship with the guard and be able to get through the door on that basis alone, without being checked. Such people, while they may not be terrorists, are the perfect target for recruitment by Hamas as "insiders".

I make sure to specifically thank any guard who checks my bag every time I go through a security check at a mall, grocery store, pharmacy, cafe, restaurant, movie theater, etc. They risk their lives, doing things that gets them yelled at by impatient people, day in, day out, so I can sit in a restaurant in downtown Jerusalem, in the middle of this crazy situation, with FAR less fear than I would experience walking the streets of NY, DC, or London at night. :yes:
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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LoL.

Sometimes I'll have a bit of a racist thought when someone of a particular minority (or majority) pisses me off, I'll curse myself and then think of something else to say / do. I hate society for what they've driven into my head at times, and then myself for allowing it to sink in. =/
But in my defense, I only think those thoughts at morons who are being an asshat and start something first.

 

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LoL.

Sometimes I'll have a bit of a racist thought when someone of a particular minority (or majority) pisses me off, I'll curse myself and then think of something else to say / do. I hate society for what they've driven into my head at times, and then myself for allowing it to sink in. =/
But in my defense, I only think those thoughts at morons who are being an asshat and start something first.

...*click* :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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BTW, Splinter, when we got stopped it was because our tickets were flagged; remember I learned to spot the flag and went up to the gate security guy, handed him our tickets, and told him he needed to take us aside for a random security check? ;) They flagged the tickets because we were flying domestically, but the tickets had been bought overseas.

Don't be so proud, sir... it doesn't take much effort to spot "SSSS" in an otherwise unused space on a ticket.

 

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Don't be so proud, sir... it doesn't take much effort to spot "SSSS" in an otherwise unused space on a ticket.

Was that what it was? I honestly forget by now; I was more "proud" of having been a keen enough observer to spot the ticket lady pointing out the SSSS to the guard. Whatever. ;)
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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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