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Offline Mefustae

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Re: BSG what the ****!? /*yeah spoilers probly*/
Wait, think about it. When a Raptor jumps to a point in space, all the oxygen and soforth within the open space of the cabin goes with it. Therefore, it is logical that everything within [and including] the hull of said Raptor is 'swapped out' for the matter at the other end, otherwise we'd have seen  nebulae gasses permeating the Raptor's internal atmosphere when Racetrack mis-jumped above the nebula-planet. As such, the wayward Raptor would have 'swapped out' the rock in the mountain and appeared intact within the mountain. Of course, it was probably going relatively fast [as judged by the exit velocity of the other Raptors], so we're talking some major damage to the occupants [not so much as liquification, but they'd be thrown to the front of the cabin violently at the very least], plus the pressure of the mountain would likely crush the Raptor relatively quickly.
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Re: BSG what the ****!? /*yeah spoilers probly*/
Maybe you guys are taking this too literally. Let me put it this way. If I crash my car into a wall. I don't actually end up "in" the wall. It's just a figure of speech.
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Re: BSG what the ****!? /*yeah spoilers probly*/
Maybe you guys are taking this too literally. Let me put it this way. If I crash my car into a wall. I don't actually end up "in" the wall. It's just a figure of speech.

According to Mr. Moore, it did in fact end up inside solid rock during the jump. On the other hand his attempt to explain what happened doesn't really hold water.

It's worth noting that the Raptors didn't actually exit the jump at high speed in the atmosphere of Caprica. That's gravity taking over. The intial jump from Pegasus was at a low speed, and there's no reason to assume they would have risked jumping in that close to the ground at high speeds. (Unlike FS it appears that they can jump at any speed.)
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Oh well if he'd spoken to me I would have given him the above excuse to you. Nobody ever listens to me. That's the trouble with the world ;)
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Re: BSG what the ****!? /*yeah spoilers probly*/
I'd imagine this illustrates exactly why they avoid using any technical specifics in BSG......

 

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Still, if jumping ot underground anhialated rock at the point rhey jumped too all odds are the newly formed cavity would quickly slam closed from the rock exploding inwards.
actualy, mabye not.
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Re: BSG what the ****!? /*yeah spoilers probly*/
I'm thinking they just jumped in and ended up in a really tall mountain; we're all thinking that the mountain is too low for them to end up being inside it...maybe they just jumped lower than normal, and farther away, ending up inside a very tall Everest style mountain range.

 

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I'm thinking they just jumped in and ended up in a really tall mountain; we're all thinking that the mountain is too low for them to end up being inside it...maybe they just jumped lower than normal, and farther away, ending up inside a very tall Everest style mountain range.

If you're jumping light-years at a time, I'd imagine even an error of a 0.001 percentage or so has massive effects in real distance terms.

 

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Re: BSG what the ****!? /*yeah spoilers probly*/
I'm thinking they just jumped in and ended up in a really tall mountain;

Same as everyone else then. What's your point?

Wait, think about it. When a Raptor jumps to a point in space, all the oxygen and soforth within the open space of the cabin goes with it. Therefore, it is logical that everything within [and including] the hull of said Raptor is 'swapped out' for the matter at the other end, otherwise we'd have seen  nebulae gasses permeating the Raptor's internal atmosphere when Racetrack mis-jumped above the nebula-planet. As such, the wayward Raptor would have 'swapped out' the rock in the mountain and appeared intact within the mountain. Of course, it was probably going relatively fast [as judged by the exit velocity of the other Raptors], so we're talking some major damage to the occupants [not so much as liquification, but they'd be thrown to the front of the cabin violently at the very least], plus the pressure of the mountain would likely crush the Raptor relatively quickly.

Or maybe they simply push the nebula gas out of the way when they jump in. Problem with solid rock is that it pushes back.
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You know, just because they said they jumped into a mountain, that doesn't mean it was sticking part way out of said mountain.
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In an interview in issue #197 of TV Zone, James Callis (Dr. Gaius Baltar) said: "the arrival of the Pegasus has helped galvanize our characters into who they are and who they’re trying to be. These later episodes [in Season 2] also further drive home the fact that the Galactica’s crew could be exterminated by its own kind, meaning that Humans are potentially far more terrifying an enemy than perhaps the Cylons."

Man humans are so egotistical.

They should have Galactica crash into a giant space iceberg. Show them who's boss!! :p
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Like everyone didn't know, here's a screenie from Downloaded.


Oh Anders and... uhh
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Yeah, I wasn't quite sure what to make of the license plate either.
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Someone obviously loves the hot moms.

 

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Or is one :)
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Re: BSG what the ****!? /*yeah spoilers probly*/
So Galactica mounted a huge rescue mission, lost a few Raptors and will probably end up losing a few crew...for what? For a dozen people who are of no military value. So the mission ends up costing more than it's worth. How many survivors could those Raptors carry anyway? Let's say three people extra per ship, times 17 ships...50 people. Sacrificing a significant part of the fleet's military assets for 50 people. That **** would never fly if Cain were still around.

Also, am I the only one seeing a distinct lack of Cylon attacks in the entire second season? It's like the Cyclons forgot all about their littlle crusade to eradicate humanity. "Oops, we sort of, er, forgot about the central story element. Here, watch Baltar look sullen some more"

Though I have to admit, the writers never do what you would expect. Sharon-clone and Number 6-clone having a change of heart=didn't see that coming, did'ya!? My bet is on Boomer and Helo making a run for it on Caprica.

 

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Raptor can carry eight-ten people plus crew. So they could bring back six-eight people per Raptor subtracting the two marines each. So 100 people at minimum.

Also, let's not forget humans are kinda a valuable commodity now. :p
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Also, am I the only one seeing a distinct lack of Cylon attacks in the entire second season?

Yes. There were Cylon attacks in many second season episodes.
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Also, am I the only one seeing a distinct lack of Cylon attacks in the entire second season?

Yes. There were Cylon attacks in many second season episodes.

Like the entire martial law arc, Boomer technobabble, does Res Ship count?

Today is a sad day indeed. Season 3 will start in October, but apparently tonight's episode is a long one (90 mins or something) so it at least kinda compensates. Also, rumour mill has gone absolutely insane, with completely ****ed-up stuff being spoiled all the time.

Also, NBC considers moving BSG from SciFi to NBC, which could be good or very bad. 
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Like the entire martial law arc, Boomer technobabble, does Res Ship count?


Well, they almost lost the Pegasus to a Cylon ambush a couple of episodes ago.
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