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Offline aldo_14

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Careful DB, aldo will actually tell you.  You're backing yourself into a corner.

Well, now you ask....  I'm a Software Engineer (lowest level, i.e. Graduate - started about 3 weeks ago) for Cisco, at Cumbernauld (see the Glasgow entry) in NTMG.

Before that I was a part time developer for Rightsrouter/Flowphonics, a music aggregator (I wrote XML packaging software to send music to iTunes, Rhapsody, Sony, etc) and before that I was a self employed consultant to Engimatec Ltd doing some patent work which I can't really describe in detail.

Oh, and before that I was at uni.

 

Offline Deepblue

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"I wrote XML packaging software to send music to iTunes, Rhapsody, Sony, etc"

Teh bias!

Now, see how idiotic that conclution was?

  

Offline aldo_14

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"I wrote XML packaging software to send music to iTunes, Rhapsody, Sony, etc"

Teh bias!

Now, see how idiotic that conclution was?

WTF are you on about, won't-say-job boy?

 

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I think he believes you worked for Apple, Sony et al. since you apparently had to interface with the back end of their software.  Stupid assumption, sure, but at least it makes some sense if you look at it through DB-shaped glasses.

Of course even if you did, we'd need some form of proof of shown bias for the claim to have any merit, and somehow I think he'd have a hard time finding that too.
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Offline Deepblue

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Does it matter? And if it really does, why?

And FYI, I'm a power conservation consultant for local schools (geothermal heating (through glycol state-change), active/passive solar, etc.).

 

Offline Deepblue

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I think he believes you worked for Apple, Sony et al. since you apparently had to interface with the back end of their software. Stupid assumption, sure, but at least it makes some sense if you look at it through DB-shaped glasses.

Of course even if you did, we'd need some form of proof of shown bias for the claim to have any merit, and somehow I think he'd have a hard time finding that too.
What?

No. The point is that it IS a stupid claim of bias.

And would I have a hard time? In almost every thread that relates to consoles Aldo has shown clear distrust for Microsoft. Now, could I not use that as a claim for bias if my personal distrust of Sony makes me a corporate shill?

It's an illogical argument either way.

 

Offline BlackDove

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If that doesn't make sense you are in desperate need of (more?) schooling.

Actually you don't seem to have sufficient schooling if you think that made sense. Having a sentence make a clear point doesn't mean it makes sense within a context.

Didn't they teach you that at Shills-R-Us school?


 

Offline Deepblue

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You made the assertion that such a joke would only work on a 5-year old. I made the assertion that you were under the age of 5, and as such, the joke did not work. Logic is good mmmkay?

 

Offline Deepblue

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You complain about off-topic and on-topic contributions...

brilliant!

Hey, hush you. Aldo has contributed more to this community with his pinky finger than you have in all of your pathetic existance. :p

He's allowed to post random stuff when he pleases, in part because he's more respected around here but more specifically because he knows when it is and is not appropriate to post OT things.

I've been on this board longer than both of you.

 

Offline aldo_14

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I think he believes you worked for Apple, Sony et al. since you apparently had to interface with the back end of their software.  Stupid assumption, sure, but at least it makes some sense if you look at it through DB-shaped glasses.

Of course even if you did, we'd need some form of proof of shown bias for the claim to have any merit, and somehow I think he'd have a hard time finding that too.

If you ask - and even though you didn't - both Sony and Apples' setups are a bit of a state.  Sonys' XML was a horribly huge and unweildy mess (50+ pages for the spec!), and Apples reporting was a shocking shambles (no XML spec for their video store, no reporting the results of their internal validation of what we uploaded, and no confirmation when something went live on iTunes - XML was quite nice & clean, though).  But for any of that to be valid, I'd have to have praised either companies music service to the high heavens.

Does it matter? And if it really does, why?

And FYI, I'm a power conservation consultant for local schools (geothermal heating (through glycol state-change), active/passive solar, etc.).

It let's me assess whether or not there is some motive in this seemingly rampant and inexplicable crusade of advertising, and why you get so het up, complain, and then repeat the feat a few days later.  And also because I remember you talking of access to the MS internal store, vis-a-vis 360 peripheral licensing fees and the resultant prices.

But thank you, I was curious.  Sounds an interesting job.


What?

No. The point is that it IS a stupid claim of bias.

And would I have a hard time? In almost every thread that relates to consoles Aldo has shown clear distrust for Microsoft. Now, could I not use that as a claim for bias if my personal distrust of Sony makes me a corporate shill?

It's an illogical argument either way.

I have a nasty habit, actually.  Every time someone presents an obviously biased viewpoint, I tend to place myself in a diametrically opposed position to counter it as best I can.  Now, it is true i don't like MS; I think they're a monopolistic company built on shoddy business practices that damages the software industry.  And I do dislike the sort of 'xtreme' americanised brand they've brought to gaming, and their general arrogance in a lot of the public statements they made.  That's a fair point, although equally surely it's not bias if I've looked at them and decided they're a bit ****?  It's just a conclusion.  And the distrust conclusion is fair well grounded in historical evidence.

However, I've never just 'attacked' MS, nor have I ever just praised a competitor against them.  I've always tried to present an objective viewpoint, with caveats.  If you're interested, just last night I was talking to my (older-27) brother about the 360/PS3, and trying to explain to him why I was interested in neither (weirdly, my brother wants a Revolution yet failed to understand why I don't care about better graphics).

Y'see, if I was truly biased, I'd be the one posting big screenshots off-topic in threads and saying 'look how **** hot this is'.  but I don't.  You do.

 

Offline BlackDove

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You made the assertion that such a joke would only work on a 5-year old. I made the assertion that you were under the age of 5, and as such, the joke did not work. Logic is good mmmkay?

Congratulations on using the logic that I am less than five years old. Now I must've joined this forum while I was still in the womb.

Also, Aristotel, I didn't make an assertion such a joke would only work on a five year old. I made an assertion that your mental age is equal to that of a five year old. The former was just a placeholder for those who can read between the lines.

I guess they don't teach you how to use logic at that school you went to. Too many screenshots dull the mind eh?

Don't worry though. Just post some more X360 screenshots. It'll all be better then. The headache of trying to think two steps forward will go away, and you also get your paycheck from Microsoft.

 

Offline Deepblue

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I think he believes you worked for Apple, Sony et al. since you apparently had to interface with the back end of their software. Stupid assumption, sure, but at least it makes some sense if you look at it through DB-shaped glasses.

Of course even if you did, we'd need some form of proof of shown bias for the claim to have any merit, and somehow I think he'd have a hard time finding that too.

If you ask - and even though you didn't - both Sony and Apples' setups are a bit of a state. Sonys' XML was a horribly huge and unweildy mess (50+ pages for the spec!), and Apples reporting was a shocking shambles (no XML spec for their video store, no reporting the results of their internal validation of what we uploaded, and no confirmation when something went live on iTunes - XML was quite nice & clean, though). But for any of that to be valid, I'd have to have praised either companies music service to the high heavens.

Does it matter? And if it really does, why?

And FYI, I'm a power conservation consultant for local schools (geothermal heating (through glycol state-change), active/passive solar, etc.).

It let's me assess whether or not there is some motive in this seemingly rampant and inexplicable crusade of advertising, and why you get so het up, complain, and then repeat the feat a few days later. And also because I remember you talking of access to the MS internal store, vis-a-vis 360 peripheral licensing fees and the resultant prices.

But thank you, I was curious. Sounds an interesting job.

I have a family member with access through a business partnership.


What?

No. The point is that it IS a stupid claim of bias.

And would I have a hard time? In almost every thread that relates to consoles Aldo has shown clear distrust for Microsoft. Now, could I not use that as a claim for bias if my personal distrust of Sony makes me a corporate shill?

It's an illogical argument either way.

I have a nasty habit, actually. Every time someone presents an obviously biased viewpoint, I tend to place myself in a diametrically opposed position to counter it as best I can. Now, it is true i don't like MS; I think they're a monopolistic company built on shoddy business practices that damages the software industry. And I do dislike the sort of 'xtreme' americanised brand they've brought to gaming, and their general arrogance in a lot of the public statements they made. That's a fair point, although equally surely it's not bias if I've looked at them and decided they're a bit ****? It's just a conclusion. And the distrust conclusion is fair well grounded in historical evidence.

However, I've never just 'attacked' MS, nor have I ever just praised a competitor against them. I've always tried to present an objective viewpoint, with caveats. If you're interested, just last night I was talking to my (older-27) brother about the 360/PS3, and trying to explain to him why I was interested in neither (weirdly, my brother wants a Revolution yet failed to understand why I don't care about better graphics).

Y'see, if I was truly biased, I'd be the one posting big screenshots off-topic in threads and saying 'look how **** hot this is'. but I don't. You do.

In that case I'll agree to disagree and go about on my way. Just don't ever come into the thread you created to bash me for posting stuff that was pertinent to the subject.

 

Offline Deepblue

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You made the assertion that such a joke would only work on a 5-year old. I made the assertion that you were under the age of 5, and as such, the joke did not work. Logic is good mmmkay?

Congratulations on using the logic that I am less than five years old. Now I must've joined this forum while I was still in the womb.

Also, Aristotel, I didn't make an assertion such a joke would only work on a five year old. I made an assertion that your mental age is equal to that of a five year old. The former was just a placeholder for those who can read between the lines.

I guess they don't teach you how to use logic at that school you went to. Too many screenshots dull the mind eh?

Don't worry though. Just post some more X360 screenshots. It'll all be better then. The headache of trying to think two steps forward will go away, and you also get your paycheck from Microsoft.

It's Aristotle, not Aristotel.

Ironic isn't it?

" 'sell and buy PS3' :yes:"

In Stealth's thread,

from a previous tidbit...

"And another thing - what the hell is the problem here with ME not liking the advertising that he's doing over and over again even though everyone here wants to vomit when they see it?

What, I can't express disgust?"

You, sir, are disgusting.


 

Offline StratComm

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I also had a big long reply worked up, but I'm glad I refreshed the page because Aldo really hit everything I was going to say and, props to him, did it in a less aggressive fashion.  That's one of the reasons (among many) that I respect aldo as much as I do.  The one thing that I will add though is that just about everyone who's directly involved with any high-tech operation and who doesn't work directly for Microsoft tends to be a little skeptical of them, because they are the 800-pound guerilla who throws their weight around to the detriment of other, perhaps more innovative, companies.

In that case I'll agree to disagree and go about on my way. Just don't ever come into the thread you created to bash me for posting stuff that was pertinent to the subject.

If it's relevant, we won't.  The bridge goes both ways though, so you need to make sure that someone who isn't in love with Microsoft would find the post pertinent.

EDIT: The month-bump for a trailer screenshot, when the thread itself derailed really quickly in the first place, wasn't pertinent.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2006, 12:04:43 pm by StratComm »
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Offline Deepblue

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So Aldo bashing me after posting relevent information never happened did it?

 

Offline StratComm

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The edit probably won't be noticed by the person it was meant for, so I'll add that bumping this thread didn't make a lot of sense, as about 3/4 of it (prior to the bump) was this same deepblue/microsoft vs. other debate in a slightly different form.  It's worth noting that this may have been the thread that earned you the "Corporate Shill" title in the first place, since IIRC the age is about right.
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Offline CP5670

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Wow, how did this grow by a whole page in the space of two hours?

We need more threads like this. They provide some much-needed entertainment around here. :D

 

Offline BlackDove

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You made the assertion that such a joke would only work on a 5-year old. I made the assertion that you were under the age of 5, and as such, the joke did not work. Logic is good mmmkay?

Congratulations on using the logic that I am less than five years old. Now I must've joined this forum while I was still in the womb.

Also, Aristotel, I didn't make an assertion such a joke would only work on a five year old. I made an assertion that your mental age is equal to that of a five year old. The former was just a placeholder for those who can read between the lines.

I guess they don't teach you how to use logic at that school you went to. Too many screenshots dull the mind eh?

Don't worry though. Just post some more X360 screenshots. It'll all be better then. The headache of trying to think two steps forward will go away, and you also get your paycheck from Microsoft.

It's Aristotle, not Aristotel.

Ironic isn't it?

" 'sell and buy PS3' :yes:"

In Stealth's thread,

from a previous tidbit...

"And another thing - what the hell is the problem here with ME not liking the advertising that he's doing over and over again even though everyone here wants to vomit when they see it?

What, I can't express disgust?"

You, sir, are disgusting.



Again, nice try to swerve from the topic of your mental inadequacies, but I'm not five. You need to try and raise your mental level. If not, all you're good for is the screenshots.

Oh and nice catch on the Aristotle typo. However, hardly ironic considering you have severe issues with understanding  context and logic, while my biggest concern seems to be hitting a button somewhat slower before I hit another one.

 

Offline Deepblue

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I think your biggest problem is an inability to remember what you have already posted...

Again:

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Ironic isn't it?

" 'sell and buy PS3' "

In Stealth's thread,

from a previous tidbit...

"And another thing - what the hell is the problem here with ME not liking the advertising that he's doing over and over again even though everyone here wants to vomit when they see it?

What, I can't express disgust?"

---

 

Offline BlackDove

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If I didn't know you were a shill, I swear I'd mistake you for a parrot.

Unable to answer me directly and coherently? What a sad turn of events this must be for you. Truly shameful.