[ionia23]

Bareback Mountain was retarded.  I'm glad it lost.

[Stealth]

i didn't see it on principle.  walk the line was good. crash was good.

[Nuclear1]

Oh and Walk The Line kicks ass.

At least we agree on something.

[Rictor]

We all know Serenity should have won.  But they never give it out to the best film, and to hope otherwise is very naive. I refuse to acknowledge the authority of people who passed over both Fight Club and the Matrix (first one) for awards.

[Taristin]

Serenity > *

[Carl]

Serenity? Fight Club? come on, you guys. If snobby elitist type people wouldn't like it, then it won't get nominated.

[Carl]

yeah i bet there are a lot of gays on this board if you actually start searching.

We have 2000 members, so we're bound to have at least a few dozen gays.

[Ford Prefect]

Serenity? Fight Club? come on, you guys. If snobby elitist type people wouldn't like it, then it won't get nominated.

An organization that would consider Titanic for best picture obviously isn't very good at being elitist.

[phoenixemperor]

Lack of Munich winning = Insta fail for the Academy

[Stealth]

An organization that would consider Titanic for best picture obviously isn't very good at being elitist.

LOL ok i've got to disagree with you there... as kitch as I found (parts of) Titanic to be, that movie seriously set some major precedents.  it was a M-A-S-S-I-V-E undertaking (i mean building the world's biggest water-tank?  building a scale replica of titanic? geez c'mon!), and i think james cameron pulled it off amazingly.

[Ford Prefect]

But it was a hollow, cookie-cutter love story whose philosophical content went about as deep as the usual "love conquers all". It was the equivalent of one of those paperback romances you find on the spinning rack in the library. The art of film has given us thinkers like Ingmar Bergman and Stanley Kubrick; I can't take a film like Titanic seriously when people like that have shown us what a movie can be. It's like comparing Fabio to James Joyce.

[karajorma]

We all know Serenity should have won.  But they never give it out to the best film, and to hope otherwise is very naive. I refuse to acknowledge the authority of people who passed over both Fight Club and the Matrix (first one) for awards.

Quoted for truth.

[Nuclear1]

This year's awards were terrible, we can all agree on that. Instead of actually picking the best films of the year, the Academy went for as many controversial films as it could find or movies that had some deep "message" to them--like people have said, Brokeback was a slow love story that would have been ordinarily ignored if it weren't for the fact that it was a movie made about gays. Serenity had a great story, dialogue, and even had it's own little "moral" to it. Of course, since it was science fiction, the Academy instantly condemned it as "not worthy of the Academy Awards." The only time I can think of a sci-fi movie winning anything bigger than a technical award is win Sigourney Weaver won Best Actress for her part in Aliens.

There was also the suspicious absence of Jarhead, which was quite a good film IMO. Certainly a little better than Good Night and Good Luck or Syriana.

[Mefustae]

We all know Serenity should have won. But they never give it out to the best film, and to hope otherwise is very naive. I refuse to acknowledge the authority of people who passed over both Fight Club and the Matrix (first one) for awards.

Quoted for truth.

Double-quoted for double-truth.

[Flipside]

Quoted from the Wiki regarding John Wayne.....

Wayne was married three times; to Josephine Alicia Saenz, Esperanza Baur, and Pilar Palette. He had four children with Josephine, three with Pilar, most notably Patrick Wayne. All but one of his children went on to have minor Hollywood careers.  Recent research has indicated that a likely cause of Wayne's failed marriages was the fact that Wayne was a closeted homosexual.  Most scholars disagree with this assertion - although significant amounts of evidence point to the fact that Wayne did have homosexual relationships with a number of prominent actors of the period, letters from Wayne's second wife Baur indicate that, while she was aware of his inclinations, their marriage was in fact genuine, and point to a likely conclusion that Wayne was a bisexual.  Despite a significant accumulation of evidence in the last several years, the Wayne Estate firmly denies even the possibility that he had homosexual relationships, and have managed to litigate the issue out of the public eye.  For more information on the subject, see the August 14, 2001 issue of Newsweek magazine.

So much for ruining the memory of Marion Morrison

[Deepblue]

Am I the only one here who didn't like Serenity?

[Wild Fragaria]

I'm afraid so

[Taristin]

I'm afraid so

[Stealth]

i didn't think Serenity was that good, but i didn't think it was that bad either.

i'm sorry, i just can't watch a 12 year old skinny girl take on a couple dozen fully armed soldiers and win, and still take the movie seriously.

[Nuclear1]

Agreed on the point of River suddenly taking out an entire barroom of burly guys all at once, but overall the movie was great just because it hardly wasted a single moment. There's constant action, well-placed and well-written conversations, and hardly any moment where I ever remember being bored or even slightly uninterested in the theater. I saw it before I had ever heard of Firefly, and it frankly impressed me.