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Offline Polpolion

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Dubaih port deal "off"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11741617/

yay!
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well, not really.

 

Offline Blue Lion

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
That'll teach people to try to operate a business in the US

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Offline Kosh

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This whole contraversy is explicitly anti-Arab. This sends the message to everyone that they shouldn't bother trying to be America's friends. America has no friends.
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Offline Nix

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Yay, yet another one playing the race card.  Doesn't suprise me actually. 

America was not totally informed about this deal, and America Said NO.
Actually, it's more like: Who?  Why?  Details Please?  No details?  NO.
 

 

Offline Kosh

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Yay, yet another one playing the race card. Doesn't suprise me actually.

America was not totally informed about this deal, and America Said NO.
Actually, it's more like: Who? Why? Details Please? No details? NO.
 

Look at it this way: The politicians are saying that we should only let American companies run our ports. Now, those 6 ports were not run by an American company, they were run by a British company. So clearly, it is ok for foreigners to run American terminals, as long as they are not Arab.

Also some people were complaining about the Dubai port company being an SOE (state owned enterprise). But, there is a terminal in Long Beach, California that is operated by China Shipping. China Shipping is an SOE, that is owned and operated by the Chinese government. So it is ok for a company owned by a communist government to operate in America, but it isn't for a company owned by a country that is supposed to be America's ally?
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Taristin

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Kosh is right. We're not concerned when British or Canadian companies handle our military and security needs. If instead of UAE, it was Belgium, there'd be no mention of it in the news.  America - full of bigots.
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Offline ionia23

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I'll admit, I was surprised this fell through.  Seemed perfectly O.K. to me.
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Offline Fragrag

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Kosh is right. We're not concerned when British or Canadian companies handle our military and security needs. If instead of UAE, it was Belgium, there'd be no mention of it in the news.  America - full of bigots.

Why Belgium per se. Or did you just choose a random country?
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Offline Taristin

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Why Belgium per se. Or did you just choose a random country?

Random european nation.
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Offline Deepblue

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Racism prevails...

Yea... :|

 

Offline Polpolion

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America - full of bigots.

I'M not a bigot. More like a PACIFIST. Well, not really.

And we were so worried about having an arab country control it because the terrorists generaly DO seem to come from around there. I think thats why we were so worried.


Man, polititions are stupid. Ecspecially ours. (America's)
So am I, with my stupid spelling errors.

 

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America - full of bigots.

I'M not a bigot. More like a PACIFIST. Well, not really.

And we were so worried about having an arab country control it because the terrorists generaly DO seem to come from around there. I think thats why we were so worried.


Man, polititions are stupid. Ecspecially ours. (America's)
So am I, with my stupid spelling errors.

keep proving Yourself wrong :p
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Offline Flipside

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The Shoe Bomber looked like the kind of guy who'd bug you at train stations for money.

 

Offline Bri_Dog

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I don't trust the UAE and I don't want them running any of our ports. If that makes me a bigot then that's all fine and dandy.
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Offline Unknown Target

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I'm not a bigot and I don't want the UAE controlling our ports. Why? Because a lot of people in Arab countries want to kill us, and an Arab-run company is easier for arabs to get into than, say, an [insert random european country here] company.
A lot of people from the middle east want to kill us; that's a fact.
It would be easier for those people to get into sensitive areas if the UAE, a middle eastern company, were in control of our ports. That's a fact.

 

Offline Polpolion

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America - full of bigots.

I'M not a bigot. More like a PACIFIST. Well, not really.

And we were so worried about having an arab country control it because the terrorists generaly DO seem to come from around there. I think thats why we were so worried.


Man, polititions are stupid. Ecspecially ours. (America's)
So am I, with my stupid spelling errors.

keep proving Yourself wrong :p
 the shoe bomber was British. The Oklahoma city bomber was American.


crap. what part did I prove wrong? the part about our polititions? my spelling? or was it the arab countrys?

man i speak too much.

 

Offline Unknown Target

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Maybe you should follow your tag's advice. By the way, it's "politicians" and "countries". :p

 

Offline Flipside

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Heh, Raa was referring to the fact that Terrorists have already been proved to come from countries that are already controlling some ports in the US. ;)

Anyway, stop picking on him :p

 

Offline Nix

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One big difference here between the Arabs and the English running those ports.  The UK is one of America's allies, and with the media spinning everything towards the left's viewpoints, we don't truly know where Dubai stands!  Dubai funds Hamas, and supports a boycott of Israel, if you want to play the Racism card.  They're just as bad in this situation, if you believe that the US wants to be bigoted and push out foreign interests.

When noone really knows about the details of the situation, and a 45-day evaluation time period had been established, I would have agreed to let them spill the details about the whole thing.  But since there wasnt any real disclosure about what's going on with SIX major access points to the United States, I can understand why a lot of politicians say NO to DPWorld.

It's OUR country, being an American myself, Why is it so bad for us to run our own ports? What's so wrong with that?  Where does it say in our Constitution that we MUST let foreigners run parts of our country?  NOWHERE.  Nowhere I can see.  (I can see someone twisting some statement fromt the Constitution now to refute my claim)  Why is it so bad to uphold our OWN country by keeping the ports in American hands?    Other countries, especially Arab countries feel it's RIGHT to kill people to uphold thier way of life and thier state and deemed acceptable by thier God.

 

Offline Flipside

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America is far from an exception to that rule.

However, at the end of the day, I do understand the concern. The fact is that, even if the company running the ports are doing so with the very best of intentions, that doesn't mean that every single one of their employees feel the same way.

There is a danger, however, and I've seen it rising here, of the problem being only because they are from Middle Eastern countries. I don't actually hold that those countries are 'full of people that want to kill you'. But theres no doubt whatsoever that there are people in those countries who would take advantage of the situation to do exactly that, probably a higher percentage than would be in, say, the UK or US.

But will doing it this way make the situation and politics between the West and the Middle East better or worse, and should that even be a factor in the decision? I honestly could not say, someone has to trust first, but trust opens up the possibility of it being betrayed, it's a hard bridge to walk across. I suspect possibly, at least at first, demanding the right to screen all employees working in the ports and do random checks of imported goods etc, which already take place, even in US run ports, would have been a better compromise, but there is so much belligerence on both sides, that I really couldn't say.