[Deepblue]

Oblivion is out. You may now recede from your social life.

[Rictor]

My what?

[Zuljin]

Isn't out in Europe yet 
Will probably have to wait until over the weekend or so before I see it on the shelves, but in the meantime I'm using other means to get it.

[Gloriano]

I'am getting it in friday

[NGTM-1R]

I didn't preorder. I forgot!

* ngtm1r cries.

[Turnsky]

gonna haveta wait a while before i get mine, spending a whole wad of cash on something else that's being released soon.

[Kosh]

Ummmm, pardon me for sounding like I have a life, but what is oblivion?

[Grug]

Someone buy it for me! *cries*

[Fragrag]

I've just bought a new amplifier for my electric guitar, no rig updates nor Oblivion for me

[CP5670]

I don't know much about the gameplay, but going by the screenshots the graphics look like crap. I don't know why so many people are upgrading their computers just for this game. I wouldn't think it's all that demanding.

[an0n]

There are screenshots and DB hasn't posted them all 12 times by now?

My God, they must've reduced his wage.

[Ransom]

I don't know much about the gameplay, but going by the screenshots the graphics look like crap. I don't know why so many people are upgrading their computers just for this game. I wouldn't think it's all that demanding.

IIRC the graphics actually got toned down because the 360 couldn't handle it at a constant 30 fps. I'm not sure to what extent, but I remember they had to take out the dynamic object shadows for that reason.

The graphics do still look quite good to me, though. Which screenshots are you looking at?

[CP5670]

I'm just going by the screenshots people are posting on various forums. The ones Ace posted in that other thread, for example. Some things look decent, but the low resolution textures everywhere really stick out. (this may well be a result of toning down for consoles, as the 360 has limited memory compared to a computer)

[aldo_14]

I seem to remember Morrowind having some issues with the 360 not having a hard disk by default, raising issues over streaming stuff from memory.

[Deepblue]

I don't know much about the gameplay, but going by the screenshots the graphics look like crap. I don't know why so many people are upgrading their computers just for this game. I wouldn't think it's all that demanding.

IIRC the graphics actually got toned down because the 360 couldn't handle it at a constant 30 fps. I'm not sure to what extent, but I remember they had to take out the dynamic object shadows for that reason.

The graphics do still look quite good to me, though. Which screenshots are you looking at?

Uh what? They toned down the shadows on both versions because no one wants to play a game at 10 fps. And FYI, the Xbox 360 and PC versions are identical unless you have an nVidia card. Then the 360 version is better because it can do both HDR and AA. The game was not "consolized" in any way.

@Aldo: Morrowind was on the Xbox... Oblivion has speedy loadtimes and amazing drawdistances.

@CP: 60 square miles of land to explore.

It doesn't matter which version you get unless you're PC can't run it on full... In which case the 360 version is going to LOOK better, however, you don't get mods and mouse control with that route.

[deftonesmx17]

I seem to remember Morrowind having some issues with the 360 not having a hard disk by default, raising issues over streaming stuff from memory.

Isnt the HDD required for BC anyways....................

[aldo_14]

@Aldo: Morrowind was on the Xbox... Oblivion has speedy loadtimes and amazing drawdistances.

And a hard disk..........which I believe is what I was asking.  I know that Volitions' 360 game had to cut features due to the lack of a standard HD, and hence an inability to stream the map data.  This supports that as well, with Bethesda mentioning an advantage to having an HD such as faster load times.

Not sure I see - going by the previous game - Morrowind being a type of game suited to a console, though.  Stuff like the inventory, journal, conversation interface, potion-making, etc all seem far more attuned to PC controls (as opossed to the likes of, say, Zelda - which to be honest I enjoyed far more if I compare OoT to the Elder Scrolls).

[Ghostavo]

I don't know much about the gameplay, but going by the screenshots the graphics look like crap. I don't know why so many people are upgrading their computers just for this game. I wouldn't think it's all that demanding.

IIRC the graphics actually got toned down because the 360 couldn't handle it at a constant 30 fps. I'm not sure to what extent, but I remember they had to take out the dynamic object shadows for that reason.

The graphics do still look quite good to me, though. Which screenshots are you looking at?

Uh what? They toned down the shadows on both versions because no one wants to play a game at 10 fps. And FYI, the Xbox 360 and PC versions are identical unless you have an nVidia card. Then the 360 version is better because it can do both HDR and AA. The game was not "consolized" in any way.
It doesn't matter which version you get unless you're PC can't run it on full... In which case the 360 version is going to LOOK better, however, you don't get mods and mouse control with that route.

*cough* http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox-360/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/697549p1.html *cough*

Justin: (blah blah blah)... For anyone wondering which version they should pick up, I can honestly say that my current big-screen HD setup easily matches Allen's high-end PC setup in the looks department. The frame rate and visual clarity is rock-solid, but the load times I've encountered in the massive Imperial city may be a 360-only issue.

Allen: I agree with the assessment on the visuals, but not for the reasons you might think. I'm currently running the game at 1280 x 1024 with small textures on and it looks about the same as the Hi-Def TV you're running the 360 version on. However, when I started playing, I was running it at 1600 x 1200, which looked slightly better than the 360, but at the cost of a big hit in the frame rate. It never became unplayable, but I dropped the resolution because with multiple characters on screen, the game started to chug.

That said, the game looks spectacular, even at 1280 x 1024, both from a technical "bells and whistles" perspective and in terms of the beautifully designed world. It's hard to imagine anyone being disappointed with the graphics in either version. About the only real effective difference is what you already mentioned -- the PC version has slightly shorter load times.

PC version seems to be slightly better than 360 one... if you've got the rig to run it.

That and it was "consolized".

[CP5670]

@CP: 60 square miles of land to explore.

The game itself seems to be pretty good, although I'm not much into RPGs myself. It's just that the graphics suck in comparison to some of the things we've seen in the last two years.

[Skippy]

nvidia released 84.25 drivers, which improve performances for Oblivion