[Scooby_Doo]

I've got a problem with some of my models randomly freezing up Freespace.  It appearts to be occuring randomly. Sometimes I can complete a mission and then it'll lockup before I can even jump out and other times only a minute or so into the mission. Freespace debug isn't reporting any errors, and I know the center for each subobject is centered, which I thought was the cause. I'm not sure if it's my models or the way freespace is handling my models or what not.  

I'm not sure what information you need, I'll post details if you need them.

[StratComm]

Do your fighters not have dockpoints and you're giving them to allied AI?  That's a sure-fire problem, if that's the case, as they need to be able to reload.

[Scooby_Doo]

Yes I believe so..
pof docking $name=rearming dock with one docking point and it has two points

Last time I had the docking error problem it crashed to desktop, this just locks up (except music keeps playing ok) freespace2,  sometimes I can bring up taskman with enough view to be able to kill fs2, but not always...

btw i'm using 3/23/2006 build.

[StratComm]

Ah, a hanging issue.  Definitely run a debug build and see what it tells you.

[Wanderer]

If you are having problems with hanging, crashing or other such it might be better to run the FS2 in window..

From launcher: Features -> Dev Tools -> Run in window

[Scooby_Doo]

Ugh now debug is complaining about this:

What is a possible cause of this?

Code: [Select]

Warning: Unable to find WEAPON_LIST_TYPE string "" in stuff_int_list

Many possible sources for this error.  Get a programmer!

File:c:\fs2_open\code\parse\parselo.cpp
Line: 2521
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006f3469()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006f1572()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006f3690()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006f7e29()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006f9156()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 008c1ded()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006d712d()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006e47b2()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 00899d0d()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006e30fc()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 0089a32c()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006e6805()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 006e6a89()
    fs2_open_d-20060323.exe 00b66427()
    kernel32.dll 7c816d4f()
------------------------------------------------------------------


[StratComm]

Eww.  Mind posting up the table entries for your ships?

[Scooby_Doo]

Oh oh... don't like that "eww" LOL
I don't know if this is causing the lockups but it's a good idea to get rid of all possiblities.

This table is quite old, so there might be a bug in it that never manifested itself in earlier builds.  Sometimes I think maybe I should have just use the default FS2 weapons.

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#Primary Weapons
;============================================================================================
;============================================================================================


; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Particle Cannon
;
$Name: @Particle Cannon
+Title:                  XSTR("Particle Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Particle Cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Particle Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Particle Cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none

@Laser Bitmap: Particle_Bitmap
@Laser Glow: Particle_Glow
@Laser Color: 0, 0, 250
@Laser Color2: 0, 0, 250
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 450.0
$Fire Wait: .33

$Damage: 30 ; 64
$Armor Factor: 1.2
$Shield Factor: 1
$Subsystem Factor: 1

$Lifetime: 4.0
$Energy Consumed: 3.93

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 80
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" )
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Nova
;
$Name: Nova Cannon
+Title: XSTR("Nova Cannon", -1)
+Description: XSTR("Nova Cannon", -1)
$end_multi_text
+Tech Title: XSTR("Nova Cannon", -1)
+Tech Anim: Tech_GTW-5_Prometheus_S
+Tech Description: XSTR("", -1)
$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: laserglow03
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 20, 150, 20
@Laser Color2: 20, 150, 20
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 1.0
@Laser Tail Radius: 1.0

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 550.0

$Fire Wait: 0.4
$Damage:                        30
$Armor Factor: 1.0
$Shield Factor: 1.3
$Subsystem Factor: 0.35

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 1.0
$Cargo Size: 0.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 80
$ImpactSnd: 85
$Flags: ( "player allowed")
$Icon: iconPromS
$Anim: PromS
$Impact Explosion: none


; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Plasma Cannon
;
$Name: @Plasma Cannon
+Title:                XSTR("Plasma Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Enhanced Plasma Cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Plasma Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Plasma Cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: newglo9
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 250, 0, 0
@Laser Color2: 0, 0, 250
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 250.0 ;; speed of the weapon (initially) -- may or may not change
$Fire Wait: .458 ;; in seconds

$Damage: 45 ;156
$Armor Factor: 1
$Shield Factor: 1
$Subsystem Factor: 1

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 6

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 111
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none


; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Enhanced Plasma Cannon
;
$Name: @Enhanced Plasma Cannon
+Title:                XSTR("Enhanced Plasma Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Enhanced Plasma Cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Enhanced Plasma Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Enhanced Plasma Cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: newglo9
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 250, 0, 0
@Laser Color2: 0, 0, 250
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 250.0 ;; speed of the weapon (initially) -- may or may not change
$Fire Wait: .558 ;; in seconds

$Damage: 65 ;156
$Armor Factor: 1
$Shield Factor: 1
$Subsystem Factor: 1

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 8.66

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 111
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Dust Cannon
;
$Name: @Dust Cannon
+Title:                  XSTR("Dust Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Dust Cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Dust Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Dust Cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: Terran_Turret ;newglo9
@Laser Glow: Terran_Turret ; 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 250, 0, 0
@Laser Color2: 0, 0, 250
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 550.0
$Fire Wait: .25

$Damage: 35 ;60
$Armor Factor: 1
$Shield Factor: 1
$Subsystem Factor: .5

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 2.8

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 76
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Meson Cannon
;
$Name: @Meson Cannon
+Title:                  XSTR("Meson Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Meson Cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Meson Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Meson Cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: thruster03-03 ; newglo9
@Laser Glow: thruster03-03 ;2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 250, 0, 0
@Laser Color2: 0, 0, 250
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 550.0
$Fire Wait: .333

$Damage: 25 ;54
$Armor Factor: 1
$Shield Factor: 1
$Subsystem Factor: 1

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 2.8

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 76
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Repear Cannon
;
$Name: @Repear Cannon
+Title:                  XSTR("Repear Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Meson Cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Repear Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Repear Cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: thruster03-03 ; newglo9
@Laser Glow: thruster03-03 ;2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 250, 0, 0
@Laser Color2: 0, 0, 250
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 650.0
$Fire Wait: .333

$Damage: 20 ;54
$Armor Factor: 1
$Shield Factor: 1
$Subsystem Factor: 1

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 2.8

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 76
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none


; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Tachyon Cannon
;
$Name: @Tachyon Cannon
+Title:                  XSTR("Tachyon Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Tachyon Cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Tachyon Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Tachyon Cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: tach
@Laser Glow: tach
@Laser Color: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Color2: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 1000.0
$Fire Wait: .3

$Damage: 45
$Armor Factor: 1.2
$Shield Factor: 1.2
$Subsystem Factor: 1

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 5.333

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 192
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Tachyon 2 Cannon
;
$Name: @Tachyon 2 Cannon
+Title:                  XSTR("Tachyon 2 Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Tachyon Cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Tachyon 2 Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Tachyon 2 Cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: tach
@Laser Glow: tach
@Laser Color: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Color2: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 1000.0
$Fire Wait: .3

$Damage: 50
$Armor Factor: 1.2
$Shield Factor: 1.2
$Subsystem Factor: 1

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 5.333

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 192
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Demolisher Cannon
;
$Name: @Demolisher Cannon
+Title:                  XSTR("Demolisher Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Tachyon Cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Demolisher Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Demolisher Cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: newglo4
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 190, 150, 250
@Laser Color2: 190, 150, 250
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 800.0
$Fire Wait: .4

$Damage: 50
$Armor Factor: 1
$Shield Factor: 1
$Subsystem Factor: 1

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 6

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 82
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none
; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Cloudburst cannon
;
$Name: @Cloudburst Cannon
+Title:                  XSTR("Cloudburst Cannon", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Cloudburst cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Cloudburst Cannon", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Cloudburst cannon", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: cloudburst
@Laser Glow: cloudburst
@Laser Color: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Color2: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 550.0
$Fire Wait: .375

$Damage: 55
$Armor Factor: 1
$Shield Factor: 1.2
$Subsystem Factor: 1

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 8

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 113
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Quantum Disruptor
;
$Name: @Quantum Disruptor
+Title:                  XSTR("Quantum Disruptor", 3243)

+Description:
xSTR("Cloudburst cannon", 3244)
$end_multi_text

+Tech Title: XSTR("Quantum Disruptor", 146)
+Tech Anim:              Tech_Subach_HL-7
+Tech Description: XSTR("Quantum Disruptor", 3245)$end_multi_text

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: cloudburst
@Laser Glow: cloudburst
@Laser Color: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Color2: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.90
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.90

$Mass: 0.2
$Velocity: 550.0
$Fire Wait: .5

$Damage: 35
$Armor Factor: 1
$Shield Factor: .4
$Subsystem Factor: 1.3

$Lifetime: 2.0
$Energy Consumed: 8

$Cargo Size: 1.0
$Homing: NO
$LaunchSnd: 113
$ImpactSnd: 85

$Flags: ("in tech database" "player allowed" "stream")
$Icon: iconSD4
$Anim: SD4
$Impact Explosion: none


; // Capital Ships Weapons

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Turret Laser Cannon
;
$Name: Turret Laser Cannon

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap: laserglow03
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 255, 0, 00
@Laser Color2: 255, 128, 128
@Laser Length: 10.0
@Laser Head Radius: 1.0
@Laser Tail Radius: 1.0
$Mass:                          0.2
$Velocity:                      550.0                           ;; speed of the weapon (initially) -- may or may not

change
$Fire Wait:                     0.8                            ;; in seconds
$Damage:                        10
$Armor Factor: 1.0
$Shield Factor: 1.0
$Subsystem Factor: 0.35
$Lifetime:                             2.0
$Energy Consumed: 1.0                            ;; Energy used when

fired
$Cargo Size: 0.0                             ;; Amount of space

taken up in weapon cargo
$Homing:                               NO
$LaunchSnd:                            80                              ;; The sound it makes when fired
$ImpactSnd:                            85                              ;; The sound it makes when it hits something
$Flags:                                ( "player allowed")
$Icon:                                 iconPromS
$Anim:                                 PromS
$Impact Explosion: none
$Shots: 2


; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Turret Particle Cannon
;
$Name: Medium Turret Particle Cannon
$Model File: none ;  laser1-1.pof
@Laser Bitmap: Particle_Bitmap
@Laser Glow: Particle_Glow
@Laser Color: 190, 150, 250
@Laser Color2: 190, 150, 250
@Laser Length: 15.0
@Laser Head Radius: 1.0
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.5
$Mass:                          0.2
$Velocity:                      350.0
$Fire Wait:                     1
$Damage:                        30
$Armor Factor: 1.0
$Shield Factor: 1.0
$Subsystem Factor: 1.0
$Lifetime:                      3.0
$Energy Consumed: 1.0
$Cargo Size: 0.0
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     83
$ImpactSnd:                     85
$Flags:                         ()
$Icon:                          iconCirce
$Anim:                          Circe
$Impact Explosion: none
$Shots: 2

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Turret Heavy Particle Cannon
;
$Name: Heavy Turret Particle Cannon
$Model File: none ;  laser1-1.pof
@Laser Bitmap: Particle_Bitmap
@Laser Glow: Particle_Glow
@Laser Color: 190, 150, 250
@Laser Color2: 190, 150, 250
@Laser Length: 15.0
@Laser Head Radius: 1.0
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.5
$Mass:                          0.2
$Velocity:                      350.0
$Fire Wait:                     1
$Damage:                        300
$Armor Factor: 1.0
$Shield Factor: 1.0
$Subsystem Factor: 1.0
$Lifetime:                      3.0
$Energy Consumed: 1.0
$Cargo Size: 0.0
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     83
$ImpactSnd:                     85
$Flags:                         ()
$Icon:                          iconCirce
$Anim:                          Circe
$Impact Explosion: none
$Shots: 2

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Turret Tachyon Cannon
;
$Name: Turret Tachyon Cannon
$Model File: none ;  laser1-1.pof
@Laser Bitmap: tach ;newglo5
@Laser Glow: tach ;2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Color2: 128, 128, 128
@Laser Length: 15.0
@Laser Head Radius: 1.0
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.5
$Mass:                          0.2
$Velocity:                      1000.0
$Fire Wait:                     3
$Damage:                        45 ; 93
$Armor Factor: 1.0
$Shield Factor: 1.0
$Subsystem Factor: 1.0
$Lifetime:                      3.0
$Energy Consumed: 1.0
$Cargo Size: 0.0
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     83
$ImpactSnd:                     85
$Flags:                         ()
$Icon:                          iconCirce
$Anim:                          Circe
$Impact Explosion: none
$Shots: 2

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Small plasma
;

$Name: Small Plasma
$Model File:                    none
@Laser Bitmap:                  laserglow03
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 0, 0, 255
@Laser Color2: 0, 0, 255
@Laser Length:        15.0
@Laser Head Radius:  4
@Laser Tail Radius:  4
$Mass:                          0.4
$Velocity:                      500.0
$Fire Wait:                     4
$Damage:                        600
$Armor Factor:                  1
$Shield Factor:                 1
$Subsystem Factor:              1
$Lifetime:                      36.0
$Energy Consumed:               44                     
$Cargo Size:                    0.0
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     111
$ImpactSnd:                     85
$Flags:                         ("Big Ship" "huge")
$Icon:                          icongun03
$Anim:                          LoadGun02
$Impact Explosion:      none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Medium plasma
;

$Name: Medium Plasma
$Model File:                    none
@Laser Bitmap:                  laserglow03
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 0, 0, 255
@Laser Color2: 0, 0, 255
@Laser Length:        30.0
@Laser Head Radius:  6
@Laser Tail Radius:  6
$Mass:                          0.4
$Velocity:                      450.0
$Fire Wait:                     8
$Damage:                        1000
$Armor Factor:                  1
$Shield Factor:                 1
$Subsystem Factor:              1
$Lifetime:                      36.0
$Energy Consumed:               44                     
$Cargo Size:                    0.0
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     111
$ImpactSnd:                     85
$Flags:                         ("Big Ship" "huge")
$Icon:                          icongun03
$Anim:                          LoadGun02
$Impact Explosion:      none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Heavy plasma
;

$Name: Heavy Plasma
$Model File:                    none
@Laser Bitmap:                  laserglow03
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 0, 0, 255
@Laser Color2: 0, 0, 255
@Laser Length:        30.0
@Laser Head Radius:  6
@Laser Tail Radius:  6
$Mass:                          0.4
$Velocity:                      450.0
$Fire Wait:                     8
$Damage:                        2000
$Armor Factor:                  1
$Shield Factor:                 1
$Subsystem Factor:              1
$Lifetime:                      36.0
$Energy Consumed:               44                     
$Cargo Size:                    0.0
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     111
$ImpactSnd:                     85
$Flags:                         ("Big Ship" "huge")
$Icon:                          icongun03
$Anim:                          LoadGun02
$Impact Explosion:      none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Light antimatter
$Name: Light Antimatter
$Model File:                    none
@Laser Bitmap:                  laserglow03
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 0, 255, 0
@Laser Color2: 0, 255, 0
@Laser Length:        20.0
@Laser Head Radius:  1.5
@Laser Tail Radius:  1.5

$Mass: 0.4
$Velocity:                      400.0
$Fire Wait: 4
$Damage:                        800
$Armor Factor:                  1
$Shield Factor:                 1
$Subsystem Factor:              1
$Lifetime:                      36.0
$Energy Consumed:               44                           
$Cargo Size:                    0.0               
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     111
$ImpactSnd:                     85
$Flags:                         ("Big Ship" "huge")
$Icon:                          icongun03
$Anim:                          LoadGun02
$Impact Explosion:      none

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Medium antimatter
$Name: Medium Antimatter
$Model File:                    none
@Laser Bitmap:                  laserglow03
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 0, 255, 0
@Laser Color2: 0, 255, 0
@Laser Length:        30.0
@Laser Head Radius:  3
@Laser Tail Radius:  3

$Mass: 0.4
$Velocity:                      400.0
$Fire Wait: 6
$Damage:                        1250
$Armor Factor:                  1
$Shield Factor:                 1
$Subsystem Factor:              1
$Lifetime:                      36.0
$Energy Consumed:               44                           
$Cargo Size:                    0.0               
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     111
$ImpactSnd:                     85
$Flags:                         ("Big Ship" "huge")
$Icon:                          icongun03
$Anim:                          LoadGun02
$Impact Explosion:      none

$Shots: 2
; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Large antimatter
$Name: Large Antimatter
$Model File:                    none
@Laser Bitmap:                  laserglow03
@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03
@Laser Color: 0, 255, 0
@Laser Color2: 0, 255, 0
@Laser Length:        45.0
@Laser Head Radius:  8
@Laser Tail Radius:  8

$Mass: 0.4
$Velocity:                      350.0
$Fire Wait: 12
$Damage:                        4000
$Armor Factor:                  1
$Shield Factor:                 1
$Subsystem Factor:              1
$Lifetime:                      36.0
$Energy Consumed:               44                           
$Cargo Size:                    0.0               
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     111
$ImpactSnd:                     85
$Flags:                         ("Big Ship" "huge")
$Icon:                          icongun03
$Anim:                          LoadGun02
$Impact Explosion:      none
$Shots: 2

; // Confed Beam weapons
$Name:                          PulseSlasher
$Model File:                    none ; laser1-1.pof
@Laser Bitmap:                  laserglow01
@Laser Color: 136, 243, 249
@Laser Length: 0.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.60
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.60
$Mass:                          100.0
$Velocity:                      1000.0
$Fire Wait:                     5
$Damage:                        6
$Armor Factor:                  1.0
$Shield Factor:                 1.0
$Subsystem Factor:              1.0
$Lifetime:                      60.0
$Energy Consumed:               0.30
$Cargo Size:                    0.0
$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     124
$ImpactSnd:                     88
+Weapon Range: 1500
$Flags:                         ("Big Ship" "beam")
$Icon:                          icongun05
$Anim:                          LoadGun07
$Impact Explosion:              ExpMissileHit1
$Impact Explosion Radius:       10.0
$BeamInfo:
+Type: 3
+Life: 2.5
+Warmup: 1500
+Warmdown: 1200
+Radius: 20.0
+PCount: 12
+PRadius: 1.2
+PAngle: 65.0
+PAni: particleexp01
+Miss Factor: 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 2.0
+BeamSound: 149
+WarmupSound: 151
+WarmdownSound: 161
+Muzzleglow: thrusterglow01
+Shots: 12
+ShrinkFactor: 0.0
+ShrinkPct: 0.0
$Section:
+Width: 2.0
+Texture: beam-white
+RGBA Inner: 255 255 255 255
+RGBA Outer: 150 150 150 10
+Flicker: 0.1
+Zadd: 2.0
$Section:
+Width: 6.0
+Texture: beam-dblue2
+RGBA Inner: 160 160 0 255
+RGBA Outer: 60 60 0 10
+Flicker: 0.1
+Zadd: 1.0
$Section:
+Width: 8.0
+Texture: beam-dblue
+RGBA Inner: 255 0 0 255
+RGBA Outer: 60 0 0 10
+Flicker: 0.4
+Zadd: 0.0



;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
$Name: Medium Pulse Beam

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap:                laserglow01
@Laser Color: 255, 255, 0
@Laser Length: 0.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.3
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.3

$Mass:                          100.0
$Velocity:                      1900.0

$Fire Wait:                     7

$Damage:                        2000
$Armor Factor:                  1.0
$Shield Factor:                 1.0
$Subsystem Factor:              1.0

$Lifetime:                      25.0
$Energy Consumed:               0.30
$Cargo Size:                    0.0

$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     125
$ImpactSnd:                     88

+Weapon Range: 6500
$Flags:                         ("Big Ship" "huge" "beam")
$Icon:                          icongun05
$Anim:                          LoadGun07
$Impact Explosion:              ExpMissileHit1
$Impact Explosion Radius:       60.0

$BeamInfo:
+Type: 0
+Life:   1.0
+Warmup: 2000
+Warmdown: 0
+Radius: 25.0
+PCount: 0
+PRadius: 0
+PAngle: 0
+PAni: none
+Miss Factor: 1.0 1.1 1.1 1.7 1.4
+BeamSound: 194
+WarmupSound: 193
+WarmdownSound: 172
+Muzzleglow: beam1
+Shots: 0
+ShrinkFactor: 0.0
+ShrinkPct: 0.0
$Section:
+Width: 40.0
+Texture: beam-white
+RGBA Inner: 255 255 255 255
+RGBA Outer: 200 200 200 175
+Flicker: 0.1
+Zadd: 2.0



;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
$Name: Large Beam

$Model File: none
@Laser Bitmap:                laserglow01
@Laser Color: 255, 255, 0
@Laser Length: 0.0
@Laser Head Radius: 0.3
@Laser Tail Radius: 0.3

$Mass:                          100.0
$Velocity:                      1900.0

$Fire Wait:                     15.0

$Damage:                        4000
$Armor Factor:                  1.0
$Shield Factor:                 1.0
$Subsystem Factor:              1.0

$Lifetime:                      25.0
$Energy Consumed:               0.30
$Cargo Size:                    0.0

$Homing:                        NO
$LaunchSnd:                     125
$ImpactSnd:                     88

+Weapon Range: 6500
$Flags:                         ("Big Ship" "huge" "beam")
$Icon:                          icongun05
$Anim:                          LoadGun07
$Impact Explosion:              ExpMissileHit1
$Impact Explosion Radius:       60.0

$BeamInfo:
+Type: 0
+Life:   1.0
+Warmup: 2400
+Warmdown: 0
+Radius: 50.0
+PCount: 0
+PRadius: 0
+PAngle: 0
+PAni: none
+Miss Factor: 1.0 1.1 1.1 1.7 1.4
+BeamSound: 194
+WarmupSound: 193
+WarmdownSound: 172
+Muzzleglow: beam1
+Shots: 0
+ShrinkFactor: 0.0
+ShrinkPct: 0.0
$Section:
+Width: 40.0
+Texture: beam-white
+RGBA Inner: 255 255 255 255
+RGBA Outer: 200 200 200 175
+Flicker: 0.1
+Zadd: 2.0



; Bright light green R 137   G 252   B 96
; High Energy Green R 102 G 255 B 0
; Puke pale green R 192 G 255 B 200
; Forest Green R 2 G 142 B 18
; White Streek Green Tint R 215 G 249 B 219


;============================================================================================
;============================================================================================
#END



[StratComm]

I was thinking ships.tbl actually.  You'd probably be better off testing one at a tiime (make sure the ships work with Freespace weapons first, then test the weapons) but the table there looks ok from a quick read-through.

[Scooby_Doo]

How strange... I was trying to find out which ship was causing the problem, the bearcat or the ajax.... when i ran the show off mission (with just that one ship) no error, when i ran it with a modified FS03-06 mission error.   Then I replaced Alpha wing in Lion at the gate (like I've done with the other ship models) and no error came up.  I'll test to see if the bearcat still crashes on that mission latter tonight.

[StratComm]

It could easily be a mission bug.  The module that reported the bug is the parser and it's used all over the place (thus the error message) so mission isn't at all suprising.

[Scooby_Doo]

Not so good update. It's still locking up on a variety of my fighters, not sure I can be making the same mistake over and over again.  I was able to play it in debug mode, albiet less than 10fps  and it didn't crash on the same mission/ship and I didn't see anything too unusually in the logs, just a bunch of frame too long stuff.

[StratComm]

Quick question: how many polys are your fighters, and how many maps do they have total?  I doubt it could be something as simple as the models themselves, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.  In particular, the complexity of the shield mesh has been known to cause issues in the past.

[Scooby_Doo]

LOD's are usually ~2000ish, ~1000ish, ~700ish, ~100-200ish

texturing usually includes 1 or 2 large (1024*1024) res images, and a 9-10 smaller addons (pilot, cockpit, HUD, gun, exhaust..)

now the shield mesh could be causing the problem... Raptor for example has about 900, however if it was the shields causing it, would you think that the problem would first manifest during the first collision test, be it gun/missile or physical collision?

[StratComm]

If it were the shields, it could happen almost arbitrarily.  The older versions of the 3ds plugin was terrible with shields and crashes with them used to be a regular occurance.  IIRC, those were really random too.  The rule of thumb with shields is that they should be triangulated and be as low-poly as possible (900 isn't terrible, but still higher than I'd like).  If you want to test that, just turn the shield off in the tables and run the mission as usual to see if it still crashes.

Also, performance is going to suck with all of those maps, so you really should merge all the trim stuff into one 1024x512 or 1024x1024 map and adjust the UV space to accomodate.

[Scooby_Doo]

I never really got the 3ds max plugin to work very well, usually just crashes...

UGH looks like it's back to the drawing board for all the fighters then with the texturing then. Does it help much that each subobject had only one texture?

[Scooby_Doo]

Sorry to inform you, but I got bad news, I redid the shielding, lower the count, still locked up. I disabled shielding and made all friendlies invun. still locked up. 

I also compacted the misc textures down from 9-10 to two, I didn't notice any speed improvements. :-\

[Scooby_Doo]

Don't like to bump an old theard but...I reduced shield poly down to about 130 reduced textures and I still get random lockups.

[StratComm]

At this point I don't know what to tell you.  You've made every optimization I'd ask one to make and it hasn't done any good (though you'll find your time is well spent when you're dealing with a lot of your ships; the slowdown from one many-mapped fighter isn't intense but it does compound).  I'd say start with the absolute basics; a clean install of FSO with no extras.  Place your model and its textures in the appropriate places and replace, say, the Myrmidon (or a fighter with an equivalent bank configuration to yours) with yours in model only.  If it still crashes, then the model is to blame but I would have no idea why.  There's also still a chance that this is a table error of some kind, so you might try running a debug build in a window.  At the very least, the last line in the debug spew should offer some clue as to what's happening.

I'd also suggest trying the Max plugin some more; it can be a pain but it's worth it to not have to go through Truespace.

[Starman01]

I haven't followed the entire thread, but maybe I can be of some help to you ? You sure that the missing dockpath isn't causing the problem ?
We could try to run the model through truespace, but I will need a textured 3ds-version to do so. Also I can take a look at your table/pof-data if you wish