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Offline CP5670

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I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
After spending about four hours last night searching around for the necessary programs and information, I finally got this to work:





Those are my own levels. :D I wish I had known how to do this back when I was in elementary school. I must have drawn over a hundred plans for custom Lemmings levels back in those days, hoping that I could get them into the game at some point. The procedure is somewhat messy since the editor is a DOS program and I am using an emulator to run the Mac version of the game, which uses a slightly different level format, but the end results are great. I think I know where my time will be spent during the next day or two. :D

On a side note, if anyone here happens to be familiar with the Basilisk II emulator, is there a way to slow the thing down? There are a couple of other games I want to try (Infotron in particular) that seem to work okay, but run too fast to be playable. I am going to try using a different ROM or underclocking the processor to half speed if nothing else works, but it would be much more convenient if there is something like the CPU cycles setting in Dosbox.

 

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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
Oh dear. That's awesome. I wish I'd known there was a level editor sooner.

Just when I thought I had run out of things to distract me from what I'm meant to be doing.

 
Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
Got link?

Seriously, I'm quite interested in those new levels.... And any links to an emulator, or something that lets me run this on a 2Ghz AMD64 would be great.
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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
Look for the Basilisk II 0.9 JIT Mac emulator on google. I don't remember where I got it but it should be easy to find. Once you get that working, PM me and I'll give you a hard drive volume with System 7.6.1 (or you can make your own from the disk images on the Apple website) and a ROM, if you can't find one. The Mac Lemmings available on HOTU has a corrupted file that breaks most of the music, but I have the original game so I can just include that into the volume along with my custom level files.

If you want to try your hand with the editor, it's an old DOS program called Lemedit. You need a special version of it called Lemedit3 that works in Dosbox. To import the levels into Basilisk and Lemmings, you need HFV Explorer (easy to find) and an older version of a program called Resorcerer, version 4 something that works on System 7.x. This took me forever to find - I think I finally got it from some obscure Japanese site - but it allows you to replace the existing levels with your own after a few minor hacks.

Basilisk generally runs very well for me (although on a 3ghz single core opteron), usually faster than my old Mac and with superior sound quality. A few games exhibit slightly stuttering music, particularly the Lucasarts SCUMM games, but Lemmings works pretty much perfectly. I played through the entire game and the ONML expansion pack just two weeks ago. The emulator seems to take advantage of dual cores, so that should also help if you have one.

 
Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
I'll take a look at this over the weekend.
Thanks for the info, btw. D'you reckon I could get this to run under Linux as well?
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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
AARRGGH! LEMMINGS!

That's the only game my Dad ever got addicted to. In fact, it's the only game besides those included with Windows that he's ever played.
While it is nice to be able to remind him of this every time he criticises the amount of time I spend in front of a screen, at the time it was damned annoying because we only had one computer...
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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
:lol:
Yeah I remember this being popular with all.
I recall sitting up late at night trying to beat the damned thing. W00t.

 

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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
Most of my time with the game went on blowing those pesky grassheads to pixels :mad2:
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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
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I'll take a look at this over the weekend.
Thanks for the info, btw. D'you reckon I could get this to run under Linux as well?

Yeah, Basilisk comes in a Linux version too.

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Yeah I remember this being popular with all.
I recall sitting up late at night trying to beat the damned thing. W00t.

I practically lived on this game in my early elementary school years. All you get for winning the game is a brief message saying "everybody at DMA design congratulates you as a master lemmings player. Not many will complete the mayhem levels; you are definitely one of the elite." and nothing else, but back then, seeing that after spending almost a year completing the game felt so good. :D

 

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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
I thought no one could remember when beating a game was a major accomplishment.  Damn, I'm getting old. :p
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Offline CP5670

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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
I think one reason for that is games in general were much harder back in those days. :p

  

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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
Look for the Basilisk II 0.9 JIT Mac emulator on google.

Thought that name was familiar :) Rather interestingly this wasn't originally a mac emulator for PCs. It was a mac emulator for the Amiga running on top of an Amiga emulator for PCs :lol:
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Re: I have wanted to do this for over 12 years...
That must've been really fast, and real good at supporting soundcards!
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