[Towwb]

Downloaded Shivan's pack over the weekend, made no changes to it beyond getting rid of that ships.tbl file.  However, I've been getting a few crash errors in playing through the FS2 campaign: 

After every mission, during the loading screen for the next mission's briefing, there's a guaranteed CTD after the first long bar lights up.  Restart from the launcher and going back into the campaign takes me to where I should be.

During the mission where you hijack the Sunder (Love the Treason?), there seems to be a random lockup requiring a reboot.  I can't seem to find any common event that causes the lockup, though.

During some cutscenes in the campaign, the loading screen will appear, fully load, and then, when the cutscene would have appeared, instead I only get sound; video is just the loading screen with everything but the final bar lit.  The intro cutscene worked.  The cutscene with Bosch studying the portal originally had this problem, but after uninstalling DivX worked fine.  Now the cutscene after the Colossus' first appearance won't work.  Hitting spacebar to skip the cutscene brings me to the briefing screen just fine, though.

Athlon XP 2700+
1 gig RAM (I want to say PC3200, but I'm not confident)
GeForce FX5600
XP Pro SP2

Any help?

[karajorma]

Go to the recent builds forum, grab the latest build from the CVS builds thread and give that a try.

[Towwb]

Nope.  Updated to 3/23, and now, when I run it in D3D, I CTD after the initial loading screen for the campaign.  OpenGL lets me get to the mission, but with no ship models (irrelevant of jpg/tga textures).

[karajorma]

Delete the errorlog.txt and run the _d build. Post the first 6-7 lines of the new errorlog.txt file plus your FS.log file. Also report any errors you receive.

[Towwb]

I get held up at the inital/initial spelling error.  Poking around in the CVS Builds thread, it doesn't seem that's what's holding me up.  Anything I can do to fix that?

[karajorma]

The 3.6.8 Delta VPs will take care of that. Check out the Upgrade Project forums for more info.

Or just run without media VPs until you've figured out the cause of the problem.

[Towwb]

Error log, running in D3D mode:

fs2_open_d-20060323 caused a Breakpoint in module fs2_open_d-20060323.exe at 001b:008c591d.
Exception handler called in Freespace 2 Main Thread.
Error occurred at 4/12/2006 18:13:52.
C:\Games\FreeSpace2\fs2_open_d-20060323.exe, run by *****
1 processor(s), type 586.
1024 MBytes physical memory.

Plus hex stuff down here that I assume you don't care about

fs.log:

==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
Passed cmdline options:
  -oldfire 
  -2d_poof 
  -cell
  -mipmap 
  -missile_lighting 
  -glow 
  -nomotiondebris 
  -spec 
  -img2dds 
  -ballistic_gauge 
  -dualscanlines 
  -orbradar 
  -rearm_timer 
  -targetinfo 
  -3dwarp 
  -nobeampierce 
  -ship_choice_3d 
  -warp_flash 
  -snd_preload 
Building file index...
Searching root 'C:\games\freespace2\'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\root_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\smarty_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\sparky_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\stu_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango1_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango2_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango3_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\warble_fs2.vp'
Searching root 'e:\'
Found 11 roots and 7121 files.
AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful...
Setting language to English
soundcard = DirectSound
Initializing OpenAL...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1
  OpenAL Extensions :
      EAX
      EAX2.0
      EAX3.0
      EAX4.0
      EAX5.0
      EAX3.0EMULATED
      EAX4.0EMULATED
      AL_EXT_OFFSET
      AL_EXT_LINEAR_DISTANCE
      AL_EXT_EXPONENT_DISTANCE
... OpenAL successfully initialized!
GR_CPU: Family 6, MMX=Yes
Initializing Direct3D graphics device at 1024x768 with 32-bit color...
  Direct3D Adapter        : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600
  Direct3D Driver Version : 6.14.10.8421

  Using PURE D3D Device
  Window in debugging mode... mouse clicking may cause problems!
  Alpha texture format = ARGB, 4:4:4:4
  Non-alpha texture format = ARGB, 1:5:5:5
  Max texture units: 8
  Max texture size: 4096x4096
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
... Direct3D init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 705 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 40 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Performing global function/(library/object) name repeat check...
LUA: Performing library/object name repeat check...
LUA: Performing object/object name repeat check...
LUA: Performing library/library name repeat check...
LUA: Initializing library functions...
LUA: Initializing object functions...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
Unable to parse scripting.tbl!  Code = 5.
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
Using high memory settings...
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
Unable to parse interface.tbl!
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-sdf.tbm"
ANI 2_radar1 with size 170x170 (33.6% wasted)
Windoze reported 16 joysticks, we found 1
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-mus.tbm"
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
Unable to parse armor.tbl!
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-amr.tbm"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-wxp.tbm"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-wep.tbm"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-aip.tbm"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-obt.tbm"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-shp.tbm"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-hdg.tbm"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-str.tbm"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=25, filter="*.pcx"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=32, filter="*.pcx"
loading animated cursor "cursor"
ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Ships.tbl is : VALID
Weapons.tbl is : VALID
cfile_init() took 54
Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0)
Loading 2_ChoosePilot-m.pcx for the first time.
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=28, filter="*.pl2"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=28, filter="*.plr"
Loading 2_ChoosePilot.pcx for the first time.
Loading TMP128x128+8 for the first time.
Loading 2_CPB_060002.pcx for the first time.
Loading cursor.ani for the first time.
ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Loading 2_CPB_050001.pcx for the first time.
Loading 2_CPB_050002.pcx for the first time.
Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37)
Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file 'scorpsquadc.pcx'
Loading scorpsquadc.pcx for the first time.
Loading 2_MainHall1-m.pcx for the first time.
ANI 2_mainwalk.ani with size 477x477 (6.8% wasted)
ANI 2_mainflyby.ani with size 189x189 (26.2% wasted)
ANI 2_maincrane.ani with size 116x116 (9.4% wasted)
ANI 2_mainexit.ani with size 174x174 (32.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainbarracks.ani with size 158x158 (38.3% wasted)
ANI 2_mainreadyroom.ani with size 145x145 (43.4% wasted)
ANI 2_maintechroom.ani with size 119x119 (7.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainoptions.ani with size 206x206 (19.5% wasted)
ANI 2_maincampaign.ani with size 190x190 (25.8% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.255 (0.255)
Loading 2_MainHall1.pcx for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP231x145+16 for the first time.
Got event GS_EVENT_NEW_CAMPAIGN (26) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
Got event GS_EVENT_START_GAME (1) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
=================== STARTING LEVEL LOAD ==================
Reassigning player to squadron Scorpians
Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file 'scorpsquadc.pcx'
Loading scorpsquadc.pcx for the first time.
ANI 2_Loading.ani with size 43x43 (32.8% wasted)
Loading 2_LoadingBG.pcx for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Starting model page in...
Beginning level bitmap paging...
WARNING: VRAM is at 6340608 instead of zero after flushing!
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-fbl.tbm"
loading warp model -1
SHOCKWAVE =>  Loading default shockwave model...
Loading model 'shockwave.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'shockwave.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 3636355033, IBX checksum: 1432405424 -- "shockwave.pof"
SHOCKWAVE =>  Default model load: SUCCEEDED!!
MISSION LOAD: 'loop1-3.fs2'
Hmmm... Extension passed to mission_load...
Reassigning player to squadron Scorpians
Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file 'scorpsquadc.pcx'
Loading scorpsquadc.pcx for the first time.
Loading model 'subspacenode.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'subspacenode.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 1682512714, IBX checksum: 3987265620 -- "subspacenode.pof"
Starting mission message count : 205
Ending mission message count : 218
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Loading model 'cargo07.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'cargo07.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 2734778093, IBX checksum:  326135741 -- "cargo07.pof"
Loading model 'cargo03.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'cargo03.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 3052990154, IBX checksum: 1451844045 -- "cargo03.pof"
Loading model 'Platform2T-01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'Platform2T-01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 3082033508, IBX checksum: 1956028801 -- "Platform2T-01.pof"
Loading model 'fighter2t-05.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter2t-05.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 1130991410, IBX checksum: 1847197812 -- "fighter2t-05.pof"
ANI 2_lock1 with size 53x53 (17.2% wasted)
ANI 2_lockspin with size 100x100 (21.9% wasted)
ANI 2_lead1 with size 26x26 (18.8% wasted)
ANI 2_energy2 with size 96x96 (25.0% wasted)
ANI toggle1 with size 20x20 (37.5% wasted)
ANI weapons1 with size 20x20 (37.5% wasted)
ANI 2_toparc1 with size 60x60 (6.3% wasted)
ANI 2_toparc2 with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI 2_toparc3 with size 29x29 (9.4% wasted)
ANI 2_leftarc with size 252x252 (1.6% wasted)
ANI 2_rightarc1 with size 252x252 (1.6% wasted)
ANI 2_reticle1 with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI targhit1 with size 21x21 (34.4% wasted)
ANI energy1 with size 41x41 (35.9% wasted)
ANI targetview1 with size 156x156 (39.1% wasted)
ANI targetview2 with size 96x96 (25.0% wasted)
ANI targetview3 with size 20x20 (37.5% wasted)
ANI damage1 with size 25x25 (21.9% wasted)
ANI support1 with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI objective1 with size 21x21 (34.4% wasted)
ANI wingman1 with size 53x53 (17.2% wasted)
ANI wingman2 with size 53x53 (17.2% wasted)
ANI wingman3 with size 53x53 (17.2% wasted)
ANI netlag1 with size 30x30 (6.3% wasted)
ANI head1 with size 132x132 (48.4% wasted)
ANI time1 with size 23x23 (28.1% wasted)
=================== STARTING LEVEL DATA LOAD ==================
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
About to page in ships!
ANI shieldft-04 with size 93x93 (27.3% wasted)
Loading model 'fighter2t-04.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter2t-04.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 1575458309, IBX checksum: 3731204330 -- "fighter2t-04.pof"
ANI shieldft-05 with size 93x93 (27.3% wasted)
Loading model 'support2t-01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'support2t-01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 3683740669, IBX checksum:  758791252 -- "support2t-01.pof"
Loading model 'cruiser2t-01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'cruiser2t-01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 3420908246, IBX checksum: 3248775967 -- "cruiser2t-01.pof"
Loading model 'transport01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'transport01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 1283053648, IBX checksum:  332683377 -- "transport01.pof"
Loading model 'support2v-01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'support2v-01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 3033145745, IBX checksum:  311387289 -- "support2v-01.pof"
This mission requires 185 Ship_subsystems. See #define MAX_SHIP_SUBOBJECTS.
Loading model 'hornet.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'hornet.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 1463092824, IBX checksum: 2305966215 -- "hornet.pof"
Loading model 'rockeye.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'rockeye.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 4051743095, IBX checksum: 1426991478 -- "rockeye.pof"
Loading model 'Tempest.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'Tempest.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 2582055991, IBX checksum:  902538880 -- "Tempest.pof"
Loading model 'NewHornet.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'NewHornet.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum:  252169483, IBX checksum:  138771654 -- "NewHornet.pof"
Loading model 'bombardier.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'bombardier.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 2575899787, IBX checksum: 2666347505 -- "bombardier.pof"
Loading model 'crossbow.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'crossbow.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum:  852142110, IBX checksum: 2182346228 -- "crossbow.pof"
Loading model 'cmeasure01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'cmeasure01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 3857917235, IBX checksum: 1369793329 -- "cmeasure01.pof"
Loading model 'debris01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'debris01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 2538545483, IBX checksum: 3906274773 -- "debris01.pof"
Loading model 'debris02.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'debris02.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 2383342928, IBX checksum: 3124603306 -- "debris02.pof"
Paging in mission messages
Stopping model page in...
Loading 2_radar1.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_radar1.ani with size 170x170 (33.6% wasted)
Loading exp20.ani for the first time.
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Loading ExpMissileHit1.ani for the first time.
Loading ExpMissileHit1_1.ani for the first time.
Loading ExpMissileHit1_2.ani for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Loading newglo9.pcx for the first time.
Loading 2_laserglow03.pcx for the first time.
Loading newglo1.pcx for the first time.
Loading newglo3.pcx for the first time.
Loading laserglow03.pcx for the first time.
Loading newglo4.pcx for the first time.
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Loading laserglow01.pcx for the first time.
Loading particleexp01.ani for the first time.
Loading thrusterglow01.pcx for the first time.
Loading beam-white.pcx for the first time.
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Loading beam-dblue.pcx for the first time.
Loading laserglow04.pcx for the first time.
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Loading beam-green.pcx for the first time.
Loading newmiss3.pcx for the first time.
Loading newmiss2.pcx for the first time.
Loading newmiss5.pcx for the first time.
Loading newmiss1.pcx for the first time.
Loading particlesmoke01.ani for the first time.
Loading particlesmoke02.ani for the first time.
Loading exp04.ani for the first time.
Loading WarpMap01.ani for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Loading exp05.ani for the first time.
Loading exp05_1.ani for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Loading exp05_2.ani for the first time.
Loading exp05_3.ani for the first time.
Loading exp06.ani for the first time.
Loading exp06_1.ani for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Loading exp06_2.ani for the first time.
Loading exp06_3.ani for the first time.
Loading warpglow01.pcx for the first time.
Loading shieldhit01a.ani for the first time.
Loading SunGold.pcx for the first time.
Loading SunglowGold.pcx for the first time.
Loading dneb03.pcx for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Loading planetg.pcx for the first time.
Loading planetc.pcx for the first time.
Loading dneb01.pcx for the first time.
Loading dneb18.pcx for the first time.
Loading 2_lock1.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_lock1.ani with size 53x53 (17.2% wasted)
Loading 2_lead1.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_lead1.ani with size 26x26 (18.8% wasted)
Loading 2_energy2.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_energy2.ani with size 96x96 (25.0% wasted)
Loading toggle1.ani for the first time.
ANI toggle1.ani with size 20x20 (37.5% wasted)
Loading countermeasure1.ani for the first time.
Loading weapons1.ani for the first time.
ANI weapons1.ani with size 20x20 (37.5% wasted)
Loading weapons2.ani for the first time.
Loading weapons3.ani for the first time.
Loading weapons4.ani for the first time.
Loading weapons5.ani for the first time.
Loading 2_toparc1.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_toparc1.ani with size 60x60 (6.3% wasted)
Loading 2_toparc2.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_toparc2.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Loading 2_toparc3.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_toparc3.ani with size 29x29 (9.4% wasted)
Loading 2_leftarc.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_leftarc.ani with size 252x252 (1.6% wasted)
Loading 2_rightarc1.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_rightarc1.ani with size 252x252 (1.6% wasted)
Loading 2_reticle1.ani for the first time.
ANI 2_reticle1.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Loading targhit1.ani for the first time.
ANI targhit1.ani with size 21x21 (34.4% wasted)
Loading energy1.ani for the first time.
ANI energy1.ani with size 41x41 (35.9% wasted)
Loading targetview1.ani for the first time.
ANI targetview1.ani with size 156x156 (39.1% wasted)
Loading targetview2.ani for the first time.
ANI targetview2.ani with size 96x96 (25.0% wasted)
Loading targetview3.ani for the first time.
ANI targetview3.ani with size 20x20 (37.5% wasted)
Loading escort1.ani for the first time.
Loading escort2.ani for the first time.
Loading escort3.ani for the first time.
Loading damage1.ani for the first time.
ANI damage1.ani with size 25x25 (21.9% wasted)
Loading damage2.ani for the first time.
Loading damage3.ani for the first time.
Loading support1.ani for the first time.
ANI support1.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Loading message1.ani for the first time.
Loading message2.ani for the first time.
Loading message3.ani for the first time.
Loading objective1.ani for the first time.
ANI objective1.ani with size 21x21 (34.4% wasted)
Loading wingman1.ani for the first time.
ANI wingman1.ani with size 53x53 (17.2% wasted)
Loading wingman2.ani for the first time.
ANI wingman2.ani with size 53x53 (17.2% wasted)
Loading wingman3.ani for the first time.
ANI wingman3.ani with size 53x53 (17.2% wasted)
Loading wingman4.ani for the first time.
Loading wingman5.ani for the first time.
Loading netlag1.ani for the first time.
ANI netlag1.ani with size 30x30 (6.3% wasted)
Loading head1.ani for the first time.
ANI head1.ani with size 132x132 (48.4% wasted)
Loading time1.ani for the first time.
ANI time1.ani with size 23x23 (28.1% wasted)
Loading kills1.ani for the first time.
Loading directives1.ani for the first time.
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ANI shieldft-04.ani with size 93x93 (27.3% wasted)
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ANI shieldft-05.ani with size 93x93 (27.3% wasted)
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Loading thruster01.ani for the first time.
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Loading thrusterglow03.pcx for the first time.
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Loading bombardier.pcx for the first time.
Loading crossbow.pcx for the first time.
Loading countermeasure.pcx for the first time.
Loading debris01a.pcx for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Loading debris01b.pcx for the first time.
Loading debris01c.pcx for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
Loading TMP824x43+16 for the first time.
User bitmap 'TMP824x43+16'
User bitmap 'TMP824x43+16'
User bitmap 'TMP256x256+8'
User bitmap 'TMP256x256+8'
User bitmap 'TMP128x128+8'
Bmpman: 1190/4750 bitmap slots in use.
Ending level bitmap paging...
=================== ENDING LOAD ================
Real count = 4945,  Estimated count = 2311
================================================
Int3(): From c:\fs2_open\code\graphics\grd3dbmpman.cpp at line 60

[neoterran]

My experience :

I could never get Shivan's torrent verison to work on my machine properly without crashing.

I just ended up educating myself about Freespace SCP, and resetting up everything from scratch myself using the FAQ. I always load mediavps as a mod, and I always use the multimod system when using campaigns like Derelict to load both it and the mediavps.

Freespace SCP can and will work without any CTDs. But it can also take some time to set up correctly, try to be patient and go read the FAQ and these forums is my advice.

Be aware that the 3.6.8 Mediavps Delta do have some problems and require some additional files that are scattered around these forums to work correctly. (like species_defs.tbl for the thruster glows, as the main example)

Good Luck.

[ShivanSpS]

No, people, I give the torrent to six of my friends, and all can start the game whiout any problem... just a CVS update... If you getting any crashes maybe, you are not running which the "Mediavps" as a mod, or your enable/disable a option in the setup of the launcher, you are not running the game well, you must always use the launcher, not direct from the .exe, you have not installed OpenAL, you have not seted the game to OpenGL 1024x768,  I cant secure that other resolutions works well...

If you have any sound problem, try to use first Direct sound, that is OpenAL, if you card supports EAX use EAX ONLY IF YOU CARD SUPPORT IT! and I not sure if that will work afer all...

[Towwb]

maybe, you are not running which the "Mediavps" as a mod

I am.

or your enable/disable a option in the setup of the launcher

exe_filepath = C:\Games\FreeSpace2\fs2_open_r-20060125.exe;
game_flags = -cell -spec -glow -jpgtga -mipmap -nomotiondebris -2d_poof -missile_lighting -img2dds -dualscanlines -targetinfo -orbradar -rearm_timer -ballistic_gauge -nobeampierce -ship_choice_3d -3dwarp -warp_flash -snd_preload -oldfire ;
active_mod = mediavpsbackup;

Where mediavpsbackup is what came with the torrent (using the normal mediavps folder for the upgrades).  Anything wrong?

you are not running the game well, you must always use the launcher, not direct from the .exe

I'm using the launcher.

you have not installed OpenAL

I have, from the second torrent you posted.

you have not seted the game to OpenGL 1024x768

OpenGL disappears my ships (except for cockpits) irrelevant of jpg/tga textures being loaded.  D3D8 is the only way I can see anything.

If you have any sound problem...

Nope.

Sounds like I'll have to take neoterran's path this weekend.

[Towwb]

Poked around some more.  Disabling -img2dds got rid of the OpenGL errors, but I still have some random CTDs.

[Setekh]

Wacky. I'm in right mind to send you out a copy of my FS2 retail DVD, just to let you experience the normal campaign. Btw Towwb, welcome to HLP.

[ShivanSpS]

??? select your MediaVps folder in the mod tab... I have not idea of where the mediavpsbackup came from.

[neoterran]

img2dds is broken in the march CVS on some computers in OpenGL mode. I've confirmed this with taylor. It has been fixed in the April 12 build, but that build doesn't have voice synthesis support. I'd just disable it, it makes nice nebulas look bad anyway.

You will want to use OpenGL mode if you can, because not only is it faster, there are less bugs and it's the only version that is being actively developed at the moment. It also has nicer specular lighting.

I don't mean any disrespect to Shivan but the fact of the matter is that the torrent install doesn't work right for all people. I'm only posting my experience and my solution to make people aware that it is possible to run the SCP correctly so they don't give up.

If you want any additional help, like screenshots of my directory so you can compare it to yours, feel free to pm me.

I suggest finding the 3 CD Install and NOT using the HOTU version of freespace. Then upgrade it to version 1.20 using the official patch. Verify you can run and use this version without problems and then upgrade it to the SCP following karajormas FAQ,

http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/fsurp/help/karajorma/intro.html

which can also help you find the movies if you're missing them. I've also succesfully gotten EVERY single mod campaign out there to work, although it does take some modified table files found all over this forum to make some of them work correctly.

Shivan, why do you have -cell shading option specified in the launcher on your torrent ? that doesn't make sense to me, and i'd definately take it out if I had it.

[karajorma]

Have a chat with me when you next put a build together ShivanSPS. Makes my life and yours easier if we're on the same page about what the Freespace2 folder should look like

[ShivanSpS]

Just take a look, that is my SCP folders today... What is wrong here?
The mediavps/data/models-maps-tables, all of them are part of the Low End Shockwaves...
The movies are needed in freespace2/data for the movies can be played whiout mediavps.

[karajorma]

First up let me say that you did a pretty good job with your first version. Having a torrent with everything in was something we should have done earlier and I'm not trying to knock what you did in any way. Most people who grabbed your torrent found it easier to deal with than any other method including following my FAQ so I'm actually happy to have it made somewhat redundant

That said I can see a few improvements that I'd make which would make things even easier for both of us by making it easier for anyone who downloads version 2.

1) When you next repackage try to make sure as much as you can is in VPs. For instance the Ursa should be in a clearly marked VP file (Preferably including instructions to delete upon Upgrade. I367_Ursa_Upgrade.vp or something like that (I picked a name that came before the media VPs in the alphabet). It's much easier to ask people to delete a single VP file when they upgrade to the official 3.6.8 VPs.
 It might be nice if we could pursuade everyone to use similar notation for patches and optional upgrades for the same reason. Telling people in the 3.6.8 release thread to delete anything starting I367_ before installing the 3.6.8 media would be a huge timesaver for both you and me as well as the end user.
 Having the low end shockwaves in a VP also allows the user to experiment with turning it off more easily.

2) Are those table files or .tbms in mediavps\Data\tables? Because it's pretty much the rule now that you should never include a table file in a media VP if you can possibly avoid it. The only table file the game should find should be the one belonging to the mod (if it involves a lot of changes) or the original retail tables.

3) I'm attaching a mod.ini file which you should add to the main FS2 folder along with a copy of that FS2.bmp file. Having a mod.ini in the main folder does no harm and can allow you to pass on information on how to renable the media VPs if they accidentally turn them off. Putting info in the mod.ini files is a good idea because they will be displayed to the user exactly when they need them.

4) Make sure you have the latest versions of the fs2open_pxo config file. MatthewPapa changed it recently and since it's gone down again he may have to change it a second time.

5) Include a copy of the  fs2open_pxo config file in the mediavps folder. The media VPs currently include a version that is now obsolete and this will override the one in Freespace2\Data even if it is correct.

6) If you can spare the space include the packaged VP of Lightspeeds nebulae in the mediaVP folder. I don't think we have modular stars.tbm files though but seeing as how the table includes everything from FS2 Retail this hopefully won't be a problem.
 So many people are getting into trouble getting hold of the wrong files for these that it would be nice to solve the problem for anyone new.

7) Ensure that you don't have -cell set in the default setting. You don't need this seeing as how you're not including mv_cell anyway.


That's about all I can see for now. If I think of anything else I'll pass it on.

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[Towwb]

select your MediaVps folder in the mod tab... I have not idea of where the mediavpsbackup came from

Like I said, the backup is the 3.6.7 vp files while I use the standard mediavps folder to hold 3.6.8 Delta.  Whether or not I crash randomly seems to be  irrelevant of the name of the 3.6.7 folder.

I suggest finding the 3 CD Install and NOT using the HOTU version of freespace. Then upgrade it to version 1.20 using the official patch. Verify you can run and use this version without problems and then upgrade it to the SCP following karajormas FAQ,

That's what I'm currently doing.  Torrent here if anyone else is looking for it.  What would I need to keep in order to move my current pilot over?  Just \data\players?

[ShivanSpS]

I dint have a program to make a .vp file :S I can unpack them which decentmaganervpview32, but icant make one...

the mod.ini and fs2.bmp in the retail folder is already there...

[launcher]
image255x112 = FS2.bmp;
infotext     = Freespace II SCP is running without any of the graphics upgrades, choose "mediavps" in mod to turn them back on again. ;
website      = www.hard-light.net
forum        = http://http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,50.0.html;

[multimod]
secondrylist =

I also include other mod.ini in the Vp folder

[launcher]
image255x112 = FS2.bmp;
infotext     = This Freespace II SCP uses the Media VP Files. ;
website      = www.hard-light.net
forum        = http://http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,50.0.html;

[multimod]
secondrylist =

And about the tables... yes is still the... just take a look.. http://www.game-warden.com/starfox/Non_SF_related_stuff/SW3D_Low-end.rar that are the dabrain low-end shockwaves, and this table come which dabrain shockwave... what I should do which this?

yes -cell cleared.

I upgrading the fs2open_pxo right now.

6) If you can spare the space include the packaged VP of Lightspeeds nebulae in the mediaVP folder. I don't think we have modular stars.tbm files though but seeing as how the table includes everything from FS2 Retail this hopefully won't be a problem.
So many people are getting into trouble getting hold of the wrong files for these that it would be nice to solve the problem for anyone new.

??? I not undestand this.

[karajorma]

There's a short guide on how to build VPs in my FAQs modding section. It's pretty simple really, barely harder than winzip.

the mod.ini and fs2.bmp in the retail folder is already there...

Opps. Missed them Check mine though. Adding information on how to run the port for instance is a good idea.

And about the tables... yes is still the... just take a look.. http://www.game-warden.com/starfox/Non_SF_related_stuff/SW3D_Low-end.rar that are the dabrain low-end shockwaves, and this table come which dabrain shockwave... what I should do which this?

I'm not a table expert but as far as I can see the shockwave uses the same filenames as the one in mv_adveffects. That means that the shockwave tables modules in that VP would also work with the low end ones. (By default there are no fighter shockwaves in the mv_adveffects ones too which is much more canon).

6) If you can spare the space include the packaged VP of Lightspeeds nebulae in the mediaVP folder. I don't think we have modular stars.tbm files though but seeing as how the table includes everything from FS2 Retail this hopefully won't be a problem.
So many people are getting into trouble getting hold of the wrong files for these that it would be nice to solve the problem for anyone new.

??? I not undestand this.

Lightspeed released a package of nebulae that campaigns like Derelict SCP amongst others are using. It makes sense to include this with the media VPs as it makes it easier for new people to install those campaigns. I'm looking for a link to the VP containing the new version with the correct stars table but if I can't find one I can simply send you mine.