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Offline ShivanSpS

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I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
on: April 20, 2006, 12:57:32 pm
Icant find him.. teh link on Karjorma guide is dead :( someone can post a working link?
 

Offline karajorma

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS
Reply #1 on: April 20, 2006, 12:59:22 pm
I've been looking for copies on my backup disks. I know I have one somewhere. I just have to find it.

EDIT : Try this and tell me if it works. I simply bundled up the executable from my installed folder.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2006, 01:07:22 pm by karajorma »
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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS
Reply #2 on: April 20, 2006, 04:37:04 pm
Ugh.  VPCS is mediocre.  Use cfilearchiver, vpmage, or one of the other utilities out there.
 

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS
Reply #3 on: April 20, 2006, 05:01:06 pm
It is very simple to use on the other hand. Which is why I suggested using it in my FAQ.
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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS
Reply #4 on: April 20, 2006, 06:12:16 pm
I use VPCS because it works and I'm too lazy to learn another program that does the same thing. :p

Do any of those other programs let you edit VP files directly rather than just create them?
 

Offline ShivanSpS

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #5 on: April 20, 2006, 08:49:44 pm
Just one question.... Icant make a VP of the new models... like the HTL Apollo, Moloch, Ursa... I teory, should work, but no...

I make a working VP of the Lighspeed Nebula pack, but I cant make a VP of the URsa, Moloch, Apollo, no matter what I do, SCP not use it...

See this...

This is the Working LighSpeed Nebula Pack That I add to a .VP (The mods needs to have the stars.tbl anyway)




And this are a failure attemp to add the HTL models to VPs...


No matter if I put the files in the correct folders inside the VP (Models and Maps) or if simply putt averything in /Data inside the VP, No matter where I put the VP In the Mod main Folder or in "Mod"/data (Considering "mod" as Mediavps  for the Ursa and Moloch and Port for Apollo... SCP just dont use it...

Any idea?
 

Offline ShivanSpS

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #6 on: April 20, 2006, 09:01:02 pm
Well The Moloch is working, because is only one .pof file, is wrking when I put the inside in the /models folder inside the VP, but I still cant make the Ursa and Apollo to work...
 

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #7 on: April 20, 2006, 10:56:27 pm
heres VPMage
 

Offline ShivanSpS

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #8 on: April 21, 2006, 12:28:02 am
is not use, I try everything, SCP cant want to use the files inside the VPs :(
 

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS
Reply #9 on: April 21, 2006, 10:59:55 am
Don't put them inside a data folder within the VP.  There was a media VP release that did the same thing a while back and it wouldn't work either.
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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #10 on: April 21, 2006, 11:23:56 am
but VPmage and VPCS force me to put them inside a folder :S
 

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS
Reply #11 on: April 21, 2006, 12:09:51 pm
They go in "maps", "models", etc.  Not "data/maps", "data/models", etc. which the VP structure will let you do but FS won't read.
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Offline Cyker

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #12 on: April 21, 2006, 12:13:20 pm
What's so good about VP's anyway?

Maybe it would be a good idea to add ZIP support or something into the SCP so that cross-platform non-crap tools can be used along side legacy VP files?
(Assuming VP files are just containers like PAK, WAD, PIG, etc. and don't store any funky meta-data alongside the file...)
 

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS
Reply #13 on: April 21, 2006, 12:16:25 pm
They are just containers, though I believe there's some kind of read optimization that can be gleaned from the way they store data.  Compression probably isn't a good idea because the files in the VPs get read many times in a game instance and having to decompress something many times isn't really a good idea.
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Offline ShivanSpS

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #14 on: April 21, 2006, 12:36:56 pm
I try everything... the .pof in /models and .pcx and anis in /maps and still dont work...

I also try a teorical install, to put the .pof in /models and the rest in /maps whiout a .VP and dont work too, the .POF file is taken, but is missed the textures...

By now the only way to use the Apollo and ursa is to put all files in /data... that the only way. but dont work inside a .VP :(
 

Offline ShivanSpS

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #15 on: April 21, 2006, 12:55:16 pm
ok in a teorical install, teh Apollo work when I put the .pof in /model, the .pcx in /effects and the textures files in /maps...

But when I make a VP of that does not work! no matter if their are inside of a /data or not... very strange...
« Last Edit: April 21, 2006, 01:03:36 pm by ShivanSpS »
 

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS
Reply #16 on: April 21, 2006, 01:04:18 pm
What pcx are you trying to put into effects?  All ship textures should go into /maps, as models will explicitly not use textures found in effects.  POF in models, textures in maps, glowpoints in (what's convention - they work from maps for me).  The VP should have the same heirarchy.
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Offline ShivanSpS

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #17 on: April 21, 2006, 01:16:30 pm
yeah, .pof in models and the rest in /maps works too, but when I make a .VP does not work anymore...
 

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS
Reply #18 on: April 21, 2006, 02:36:55 pm
Quote from: ShivanSpS on April 21, 2006, 11:23:56 am
but VPmage and VPCS force me to put them inside a folder :S

you need to make a data folder, and make maps, models, etc inside the data folder and put your files there.

Quote from: StratComm on April 21, 2006, 12:09:51 pm
They go in "maps", "models", etc.  Not "data/maps", "data/models", etc. which the VP structure will let you do but FS won't read.

learn how to use the tool before you give advice, i can tell youve never used VPMage...
 

Offline ShivanSpS

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Re: I need the "Kazan's VP Constructor Suite (VPCS)"
Reply #19 on: April 21, 2006, 03:29:10 pm
Still not working...

the HTL Moloch works well in a .vp /data/models...

But icant make the Apollo and Ursa to work....

Take a look


What is wrong here? if a put that VP in port/data, should be working right? not, is not.
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