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Offline Kamikaze

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Bush to be impeached?
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0604/S00294.htm
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=50&GA=94&DocTypeId=HJR&DocNum=125&GAID=8&LegID=25794&SpecSess=&Session=

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From scoop.co.nz

Illinois Joint Resolution 125

Bush is charged with the following “high crimes and misdemeanors” in Representative Yarborough’s resolution (summary):


1. Ordering the National Security Agency to spy on American citizens without a warrant (a “felony”).
2. Violating the Torture Convention of the Geneva Conventions, “a treaty regarded as supreme law by the United States Constitution;”
3. Holding American and other citizens as “prisoners of war without a charge or trial;
4. Manipulating intelligence to start the Iraq war “resulting in the deaths of large numbers of Iraqi civilians and causing the United States to incur loss of life, diminished security and billions of dollars in unnecessary expenses; and,
5. Leaking “classified national secrets to further a political agenda” thus exposing U.S. agents “to potential harm and retribution while simultaneously refusing to potential harm and retribution while simultaneously refusing to investigate the matter.”
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Offline Mefustae

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
Where the f*** were they three years ago?

But that's beside the point. This is going to get shot down quicker than an Iraqi SCUD, and can anyone tell me why murderers are sent to prison, but mass-murderers are simply forced into early retirement?
« Last Edit: April 24, 2006, 02:11:05 am by Mefustae »

 

Offline Prophet

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
This should be interesting... :drevil:
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Offline Bobboau

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
they need to wait untill they actualy have the votes for this, the republicans will be able to craft this to there advantage, mark my words!
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
Well, in theory it shouldn't matter whether or not the republicans have a majority in congress. Or if it DOES matter, everything that old Montesquieu-fellow wrote about trinity of power is scrapped in America and it would mean a bunch of other (nasty) things.

For those who don't remember anything about Montesquieu and his writings, he developed the theory of power being divided in three parts in a proper state: legislative power, judicial power and executive power. These three entities should be entirely separate from each other.

Basically in US the legislative power is on congress and senate (according to my understanding). Government has the executive power only, and the courts have judicial power. Legislative power is the highest of these - other two (should) wor along the rules set by congress/senate. In ideal conditions all of these parts of power work independently and one person or concil or whatever only has power on one of these branches of power, and

If, however, the legislative power manages to also have control over jurisdiction, then it results in situations like Silvio Berlusconi setting a law that makes the prime minister (conveniently) impossible to prosecute during term of office. Or, like it's suggested here - if the congress/senate manages to meddle in this matter so that Bush gets away with it (again). That's called corruption in some groups; in some groups it's called "national security".  :nervous:
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Offline aldo_14

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
I don't think anyone in the US could really claim there was any seperation there anyways, with the Supreme Court being politically appointed.

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
Ah yes, forgot that. But in principle the same thing should hold even if there are much politics in appointments. Meaning that if someone breaks the law(s), judgement should definitely not be based on the judge's or the suspect's political background. Well that much should be clear anyways but it just seems that like in Orwell's Animal revolution's farm, some people are a little more equal than some others.

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Offline Prophet

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
teh most free country of teh free world.
Biggest joke of the century...
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Offline Turambar

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
why impeach when you can impale?

there's absolutely no hope for this country if these republicans stay in power
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Offline Rictor

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
Bush isn't getting impeached, the Republicans in both Houses would never allow it, even if it is justified. And America doesn't have a tradition of presecuting its highest public officials when they lose their immunity, or else you'de have most of the living ex-Presidents wearing stripes. So.....yeah. Aside from having the distinction of being remembered by much of America as the worst Prez in recent memory, I don't think Bush will face any consequences.

 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
It also strikes me that proving the charges would probably require the co-operation of a lot of people more loyal to the administration than the spirit of the law.

 

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
they need to wait untill they actualy have the votes for this, the republicans will be able to craft this to there advantage, mark my words!

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Offline Nuclear1

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
This should be interesting... :drevil:

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Offline Killfrenzy

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
It won't work.

I'll be shocked, amazed and ecstatic if it DOES however. :D
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Offline Mefustae

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
On the off chance that both the President and Vice-President are ousted from power, to whom does the thron- er... presidency default to?

 

Offline Paragon

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
The Speaker of the House, right?
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Offline karajorma

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
Speaker of the House of Representatives if I remember correctly.

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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Offline Roanoke

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Re: Bush to be impeached?
Maybe we'll see a popular uprising. Imagine that, crowds marching on the whitehouse......