[Dwin]

You cant place a sun and Babylon 5 together without crashing FRED.

[Trivial Psychic]

Are you using the -fredhtl command line option?

[Dwin]

No. What does it do?

[Dwin]

Okay, I tried doing that.

Whenever I place Babylon 5, an error window pops up saying "serious problem loading model b5.pdf, 9 normals capped to zero"

And a part of the model is screwed up and warped.

[Trivial Psychic]

OK.  The "capped normals" thing, isn't all that serious.  Sure, there may be an unoptimization with the model somewhere, but n'either FRED n'or FSO suffer any ill-effects from them.  The models that display this error message, continue to function without any problems.  Secondly, its best to use the following command line options for FRED: -fredhtl, -jpgtga, and for those who like the extra visuals and have a better-than-medeocre-powered-PC, -glow.  As for the twisted model thing, all I can suggest is you go into the data/cache directory, find the B5.ibx file and delete it.  Then restart FRED, place the model, (wait a bit for the ibx to be generated) and see if it looks better.

[Slasher]

I remember running into this rather frustrating bug all the time a few months ago but my current FRED2 build (April 1, 2006) doesn't have a problem with it even without the -fredhtl tag. 

If worse comes to worse, you can always make the background in a blank mission and paste it into the one with B5 using a text editor when you're finished with everything else in the mission.  That's a pain in the ass, however.

[madaboutgames]

Yeah I had the same problem, after adding B5 I couldnt access the background editor, kept crashing out.  What I used to do was change the b5 station to a starfury, then done the background stuff. After it was done I changed the star fury back to b5.

Havnt had that problem with newer fso builds though

[IPAndrews]

I changed the star fury back to b5.

Yes but what fun would modding TBP be without having to do these things?