[aldo_14]

All of you are a bunch of idiotic cynics. The movie DOESN'T FRACKING HAVE "PATRIOTIC" MOMENTS. THERE ARE NO SPEECHES. IT IS NOT STAR-STUDDED. MANY OF THE PEOPLE PLAY THEMSELVES.

Remind me exactly how many people are playing themselves in a film about a plane that crashed into the ground killing all onboard?

Jeez, get that stick oot from between yer bumcheeks, eh?  Bloody 'ell.

[Flipside]

Why would anyone want to share the 'experience' of being murdered in the first place?

Sounds like a pointless, and rather sick attempt to cash in on the profits of Terror to be honest.

[Rand al Thor]

It's based on 'all available data' to recreate the events. So where does this data come from. Far as I remember it being reported, no one knew why the plane went down. Maybe I'm missing a big piece of the pie but is this just one possible reconstruction? That happens to portray everyday joes becoming heroes?

[Flipside]

Wasn't all the information/videos etc regarding the incident siezed for investigation anyway, was that data made public again?

[Turnsky]

i'll wait for the "air crash investigation" version to come up on National Geographic, either that, or wait some time for the remakes.

[Deepblue]

It's based on 'all available data' to recreate the events. So where does this data come from. Far as I remember it being reported, no one knew why the plane went down. Maybe I'm missing a big piece of the pie but is this just one possible reconstruction? That happens to portray everyday joes becoming heroes?

The black box was recovered, and along with the phone calls, you can piece things together pretty well. After the passengers stormed the cockpit, the terrorists pointed the nose down.

[Mefustae]

I wonder if they'll put a gag-reel on the DVD?

[Ulala]

Has anyone else seen it that can vouch for DB's claim that it was decent, aside from the concept? I'm as cynical as the next guy, but I'm more curious than him.

[Inquisitor]

NPR (National Public Radio) actually shared DB's thoughts on it.

If you don't want to relive that day, you do not want to see this movie.

They said it they wished it was a Hollywood movie, and that at some point everyone would realize what was going on and someone would save the day. They also said it was not at all pandering or patriotic. Just plain "real." I believe that had it not been so personal for the reviewer, he may have called it a "good movie." He certainly seemed to think the director did a "good job."

However, I knew people in the towers, it's a wee bit too personal and a wee bit too recent for me to pay money to see how terrifying their final moments must have been. I'll pass.

[SadisticSid]

All of you are a bunch of idiotic cynics. The movie DOESN'T FRACKING HAVE "PATRIOTIC" MOMENTS. THERE ARE NO SPEECHES. IT IS NOT STAR-STUDDED. MANY OF THE PEOPLE PLAY THEMSELVES. It is a record of, as accurately as possible, the events on United 93 as well as the air-traffic control center.

THERE IS NO BLOODY DRAMA. It's raw and unflinching, and it IS reliving the events of 9-11. It does not cheapen, unless you thought the events themselves were "cheap."

Bloody hell.

If this wasn't the internet, I would slap all of you.

How can a film whose goal is to make PROFIT out of those events NOT cheapen them? They are being reproduced in the truest possible way in order to make money from their display to the paying public. If the producers wanted to do a public service, then they'd perhaps only charge to recoup their expenses or air it free on a public channel. But they don't. They want it to gross as high as possible in order to line their many, many pockets. Could it be any clearer without [size] tags?

And yes, I know they're giving the money to charity. A whopping 10% of it.

[aldo_14]

How can a film whose goal is to make PROFIT out of those events NOT cheapen them?

By charging loadsamoney so it's not cheap!

(NB: I believe the 10% is only from the opening weekend box office, anyways)

[karajorma]

Even better. That makes it a cheap ploy to get themselves a bigger opening weekend than they would otherwise.

[Inquisitor]

I've not seen it, and have no desire to, but the NPR guy said he thought it would cheapen it, and he came away feeling exactly opposite. He said it worked because the events are in recent memory. Everyone still remembers in pretty vivid detail what they were doing that morning. There's apparently no clear indication of what time it is at any one point, so the audience is trying to piece together where they are in the timeline by other clues.

Sometimes people make movies for reasons other than "make a billion dollars." As much as people seem to want to hate DB for posting this, I have at least anectdotal evidence that he might be right. From what I gather, it's as well done as the likes of Schindler's List and Hotel Rwanda, neither of those films seemed to get panned for "cheapening" tragedy. Again, I have not seen it and won't, it's still too soon after events and I am still too saddened by those events, but a news source that is not CNN or FOX indicates he might be right and it may actually be a good film, and do some justice to those events.

Food for thought before everyone jumps on the "beat up DB" bandwagon.

[an0n]

I fail to see how they could storm the cockpit and still manage to plough into the ground.

It's a fairly simple thing: Pull back controls -> Plane go up.

[aldo_14]

I fail to see how they could storm the cockpit and still manage to plough into the ground.

It's a fairly simple thing: Pull back controls -> Plane go up.

Here's another fairly simple thing.  It's easier for big heavy thing to go down, than big heavy thing to go up.

[Mr. Vega]

Just saw it this afternoon.

It's one of the greatest movie's I've ever seen.

It's basically a docudrama, with the known facts recreated down to the smallest detail, and the educated guesses about what happened on flight 93 which are quite reasonable. There's no manipulation whatsoever; in fact the strongest part of the move, aside from the brilliant air control scenes, is the acting and the dialogue of the hijackers. They're disturbingly fervent, but human, and prone to insecurity and panacking. They were chanting passages from the Koran almost the entire time on the plane, just to try to keep themselves calm.

Actually, no, I change my mind, the strongest part of the movie is the end, when the passengers charge the cockpit, primarily because it's not protrayed as "heroism", but a wild act of desperation by people who knew they would die if they stayed in their seats.

Remind me exactly how many people are playing themselves in a film about a plane that crashed into the ground killing all onboard?

Jeez, get that stick oot from between yer bumcheeks, eh?  Bloody 'ell.

The guys on the ground Aldo, not the people on the plane. Try thinking, then posting for once.

Now, you assholes will still probably claim that the movie is loaded with patriotic crap despite having not seen the movie. If there was any, then I didn't see it, and I'm as anti-US Gov. as they come.

[Rictor]

I never said there is, and I'm certainly not going to claim so until I've seen the movie. I think what a lot of people said is that there was likely to be. But hey, if the director decided not to go that route, props to him.

[Ford Prefect]

Someone OD'd on grumpy pills today.

[Mars]

i'll wait for the "air crash investigation" version to come up on National Geographic, either that, or wait some time for the remakes.

The show's actually called Seconds From Disaster, ****ing good show, it is but will always be stuck at 30 episodes. They did the 9/11 Pentagon attacks, but they never coverd Flight 93.

[karajorma]

Actually there is a show called Air Crash Investigations.