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Offline Mongoose

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Re: F-14 vs Amazon Drone
Just because I like watching aldo squirm, I'll actually attempt to explain this. :p

For anyone who has never seen a game of baseball (and I metaphorically spit on those of you this applies to ;)), the objective of the team on offense is to advance the runners around the bases (which are arranged in a diamond shape) by hitting the ball, which is thrown by the pitcher from the center of the diamond over home plate.  (I won't get into balls and strikes, since it's not really relevant to the question.)  To score a run for his team, a runner must advance through all four bases, from first to second to third to home.  Runners can only advance a base (or more) in certain circumstances: when the ball is hit into play by the batter, by stealing the next base, or a few other methods that I won't get into.  If the bases behind a runner are full, a fielder can get the runner out (three outs ends an inning) by simply stepping on the base the runner is running to; if not, he must tag the runner with the ball.  An out also occurs when a fly ball is caught by a fielder.

Anyways, in most normal cases, the batter tries to swing and hit the ball with full force, with the intent of getting a single, double, triple, or home run (hitting the ball out of the park, which means at least one automatic run, more if people are already on base).  However, there are circumstances where a hitter finds it more important to advance the runners on base than to get on base himself.  This usually happens when a team is down by a few runs or else wants to put up an insurance run or two between themselves and the opponent.  It often involves advancing a runner from first to second base, since this makes it possible for a reasonably fast runner to score on a single-base hit.  There are usually two reasonable ways of doing this.  If there is a runner at third base, a batter will often attempt a sacrifice fly, hitting a fly ball deep into the outfield, allowing the runner at third to 'tag up' after the ball is caught and run home to score.  The other way is by bunting, which involves holding the bat horizontal to the ground over the plate and tapping the ball toward the ground, usually toward a baseline.  If done correctly, this usually forces a fielder to get the guaranteed out at first, allowing any runners on base to advance.  If done extremely well, a fast batter may be able to get on base himself.

UT's comment applies in that, for a modern fighter jet, missiles are definitely the preferred and most-often-used pieces of armament.  Using a gun is only good at very close range in certain circumstances.  That being said, there are a few situations where using the gun is not only well-advised, but absolutely necessary; doing so could save a pilot's life.  An interesting side note here is that the A-10 Warthog anti-tank attack craft proves as an exception to this rule.  While it does carry air-to-ground missiles, its primary weapon is an absolutely massive and stunningly rapid Gatling gun that fires depleted uranium rounds.  Its entire design is based on being maneuverable at slow speeds and being able to take a withering amount of enemy fire while still making it home.  The things have been used for the past 25 years, and as far as I know, they're scheduled to remain in service until at least 2035 or so.  They may be ugly, but the people who fly them absolutely love them.  If the F-16 is the Valkyrie of the fighter world, the A-10 is definitely the Herc. :p

Not that all of this has much to do with the original topic (and that didn't make much sense anyway), but I thought it still made for a reasonable explanation.  I agree with UT, though; you Brits have no right to complain about unfamiliar terms when you subject us to reams upon reams of nearly indecipherable slang on a daily basis. ;)

 

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At least now I understand why baseball is regarded as one of the most boring sports on earth, at least.

you Brits have no right to complain about unfamiliar terms when you subject us to reams upon reams of nearly indecipherable slang on a daily basis. ;)

It's our language, we'll do what we bloody well like with it, and besides which we need indecipherable slang to confuse Americans :p

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Actualy, the A-10's primary weapon is the maverick IIRC.

Myself, I'd say the A-10 is more of an athena, there's even a tad of visual resemblence there...
actualy, mabye not.
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If you want to talk about confusing/boring, let's get into Cricket aldo :p


And anyway, one of the A-10s major weapons is indeed it's cannon. The entire forward section is built around that thing, and it is truly awe-inspiring.

 

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If you want to talk about confusing/boring, let's get into Cricket aldo :p

Before you start.... I'm a Scot.

 

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The entire forward section is built around that thing, and it is truly awe-inspiring.

Indeed, any weapon that can literally stop its parent vehical by sustained fire alone definitely earns the title of 'awe-inspiring'.

 
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Sounds like we'd all enjoy a "super-maxim" gun for FS2. hehehe.

I would like a Morningstar that does slighly more damage, would be nice for warhead kills.

 

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If you want to talk about confusing/boring, let's get into Cricket aldo :p

Before you start.... I'm a Scot.

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Alright, lets talk about throwing tree trunks.

You don't know much about Scotland, do you?

 

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maybe it was ireland then.  scotland tends to have no trees.
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It's our language, we'll do what we bloody well like with it, and besides which we need indecipherable slang to confuse Americans :p

You stole it from the Germans and modified it, just as the Americans did to yours. So it's no more yours than ours, or germany's :p
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It's our language, we'll do what we bloody well like with it, and besides which we need indecipherable slang to confuse Americans :p

You stole it from the Germans and modified it, just as the Americans did to yours. So it's no more yours than ours, or germany's :p

There wasn't even a Germany at that point.

 

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You stole it from the Germans and modified it, just as the Americans did to yours. So it's no more yours than ours, or germany's :p

1) We had the decency to change the name
2) We don't keep insisting the germans are spelling and pronouncing everything wrong.
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Re: F-14 vs Amazon Drone
At least now I understand why baseball is regarded as one of the most boring sports on earth, at least.

you Brits have no right to complain about unfamiliar terms when you subject us to reams upon reams of nearly indecipherable slang on a daily basis. ;)

It's our language, we'll do what we bloody well like with it, and besides which we need indecipherable slang to confuse Americans :p

Ye ken?

Ha!  I actually understood that!  :p

As for baseball being boring, the way I see it, the people who say that just don't understand the subtleties of the game: the delicate interplay between pitcher and batter, the playing-out of strategy over innings, the way a single swing of the bat can suddenly bring 50,000 people to their feet, shouting and screaming. Every pitch has a meaning, and every move by a runner or fielder is a signal for what's going to happen next.  There's no timer here, and the game's never over until the last out; you always get one more chance for redemption.  There's nothing in all of sports quite like watching a fantastic pitcher's duel between two players at the top of their games, or watching as your team turns on the bats and scores run after run in a single inning.  As a French author (I believe) said near the turn of the century, "To understand the American spirit, one must understand baseball."  Guess that explains a lot about trans-Atlantic relations, doesn't it? :p

 

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As a French author (I believe) said near the turn of the century, "To understand the American spirit, one must understand baseball."  Guess that explains a lot about trans-Atlantic relations, doesn't it? :p

You're all nuts.

  

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I'm American.






...baseball is really, really boring.

 
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I'm English, from one of the good bits of Kent so I even speak in recieved pronounciation (the queen's English) I enjoy playing baseball and I like the F14... erm. Thats all i have to say really.
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Bearing in mind that I'm from the Darford area I expect to have that "good bit of Kent" comment clarified immediately! :D
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I'm American.






...baseball is really, really boring.

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I'm American.

...baseball is really, really boring.

play the damn game and you'll see that it isn't boring. :doubt:
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