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The Chicken-Egg Debate
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/index.html

Now taking bets!  Chicken or the egg came first - get your tickets here!  :P

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Offline Prophet

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
"eggsperts"
   - Oh for god's sake...

"If a kangaroo laid an egg from which an ostrich hatched, that would surely be an ostrich egg, not a kangaroo egg."
   - :wtf:

"Eggs were around long before the first chicken arrived. Of course, they may not have been chicken eggs as we see them today, but they were eggs."
   - These are without a doubt the Einsteins of our time. :rolleyes:
I'm not saying anything. I did not say anything then and I'm not saying anything now. -Dukath
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Offline Flipside

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
My money's on the Cockerel ;)

 

Offline FireCrack

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
Humerously enough, a flash animation on newgrounds solved this about 6 months before...

link
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
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"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."

 

Offline Nuke

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
dinosaurs were laying eggs long before the chicken ever existed.
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Offline Mars

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
Ya think?  :rolleyes:

 

Offline Flipside

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
Actually, Dinosaurs were chickens in potentia. Theres a nice philosophical discussion for you, considering that a Dinosaur is merely what a 'chicken' looked like 65 million years ago, is the question even relevant? ;)

 

Offline Turnsky

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
i say niether, the single-celled organism came before either the chicken, or the egg.  :p
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Offline aceofspades

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
...I think the point is that the organism we call a chicken must have a certain range of DNA. Outside of that range, the organism is not a chicken, inside, it is. The modern chicken evolved from some previous organism who was not a chicken in this genetic sense. It copulated, and a zygote formed, which is essentially an egg without a shell rather than part of the surrounding chicken which is not the same organism. Within the zygote the DNA was arranged in such a way that it became the modern chicken. QED.
Ta.  :ha:
This is old, also. My science teacher told me this 2 years ago.
The real question is, what came first - war, or Alpha 1?
I wonder if the Shivans eat chocolate? Or play FS2, for that matter.

 

Offline Gortef

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
No no no, the egg and chicken were the second to come. Fist came the cock.
Habeeb it...

 

Offline Kie99

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The Egg couldn't get laid until the chicken did.
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
Eventually, this goes to creo vs evo (like most debates concerning living things usually do).

If you're a creationist, chicken was first because they were created. That's quite obvious because even God (despite His obvious lack of common sense in some cases) couldn't be so stupid as to waste his holy infinite energy to first make an egg, keep it warm until it hatched and then take care of it until it got big enough to feed itself, no sir, He would have made the chicken ready once and for all IMO  (should there have been a creation...)

If you're an evolutionist like I am, the egg was logically first, because the first bird that could be qualified as a chicken was logically borne as an egg laid by a "pre-chicken" bird, a bird that couldn't yet be qualified as a chicken.

More specifically, the first chicken was the bird that lacked the ability to reproduce with the species from which the chicken originally derived from via specifiation.

So, first there was a pre-chicken population of birds. Then one part of that population was separated from the other part of population, and started to evolve onto chicken-ish direction. When the first member of this separate population differed enough from the original population (ie. couldn't reproduce with the original population but only with its own part of population), it was the first chicken and it was the same chicken inside the egg, thus the egg was first. The bird that laid the first egg was not yet a chicken, but its ancestors were (and are) chickens.

In short, a non-chicken laid an egg that contained a chicken that had evolved from the non-chicken via mutations.  :lol:

Not that it matters any bit, but the problem was actually solved many many years ago.  :lol:
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Offline Wild Fragaria

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
Very amusing, Herra Tohtori   :lol:

 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
Sod the chicken and egg, where's my omelette?

 

Offline Falcon

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Sod the chicken and egg, where's my omelette?

I ate it, with some toast and jam.

 

Offline Prophet

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
Incidentally. Have you ever seen a headless chicken fly? I have. When I was about 6-7 years old we slaughtered our chickens (it wasn't worthwhile to keep them anymore). It was awesome. It was winter and the snow was covered in blood. And our dog thought it was fun to catch the poor mindless chickens in mid air. He lost interest in them when they stopped moving though. It was amusing to watch. I think my fathers axe cut about 10 chickens that day.

Chicken on log.
Fathers axe swung.
*CHOP*
Father threw headless chicken in air.
Spewing blood.
Dog jumping after the chicken.
Me laughing my ass off.
Next chicken on log.

Of course it didn't affect my mental development in no way at all. :D
I'm not saying anything. I did not say anything then and I'm not saying anything now. -Dukath
I am not breaking radio silence just cos' you lot got spooked by a dead flying ****ing cow. -Sergeant Harry Wells/Dog Soldiers


Prophet is walking in the deep dark places of the earth...

 

Offline aceofspades

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
I really hope you don't know where I live.  :eek: :nervous:
I wonder if the Shivans eat chocolate? Or play FS2, for that matter.

 

Offline Wild Fragaria

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
Incidentally. Have you ever seen a headless chicken fly? I have. When I was about 6-7 years old we slaughtered our chickens (it wasn't worthwhile to keep them anymore). It was awesome. It was winter and the snow was covered in blood. And our dog thought it was fun to catch the poor mindless chickens in mid air. He lost interest in them when they stopped moving though. It was amusing to watch. I think my fathers axe cut about 10 chickens that day.

Chicken on log.
Fathers axe swung.
*CHOP*
Father threw headless chicken in air.
Spewing blood.
Dog jumping after the chicken.
Me laughing my ass off.
Next chicken on log.

Of course it didn't affect my mental development in no way at all. :D

Ahhh...  Why did your dad chop that many chickens in one day?  (I know you said they weren't worth keeping, but 10 chickens in a day?)

 

Offline Rictor

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Re: The Chicken-Egg Debate
It is debateable which came first,. the chicken or the egg, but they will both end at the same time: in my frying fan, giving birth to a delicious chicken-breast omlette.

Of course, that's a joke. Putting chicken in an omlette is just disgusting, the sort of thing the French would do.

 

Offline Flipside

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Heh, that's what an omelette is for. Just throwing any old bits you happen to have available into ;)