[Fineus]

Yeah I saw that as well.. not the Master in any incarnation I've ever seen him!

[an0n]

Ah, well.

At least I can still hope he ressurects the Daleks and Cybermen. Who apparently are beating the living **** out of each other in the finale.

[Fineus]

How do you know?

[an0n]

Vague, ill-confirmed reports on the interweb.

It's been 'known' about for a while.

I'm guessing that was the general purpose of the whole 'alternate universe' thing - to let them bring back the Cybermen and Daleks even though they'd been thoroughly dispatched previously.

Still, it'd be nice if they put everything down to some AU Daleks. Like have the 'hiccup' that jerked the Tardis out of this universe being part of a greater arc showing the Daleks of the multiverse were beginning to meddle in things that previously only the Time Lords could.

[starbug]

Russel t Davies said that the Cybermen have been confirmed to appear in the season finale, its has also been slipped the it would be possible that the doc would face a Dalek in this season, and Russel has stated that the season finale will have an epic cliffhanger. So it is possible the the Daleks fight the Cybermen with little old earth in the middle, that is one fight i have always wanted to see since i was a kid. (sad i know but who cares!)

[karajorma]

Still, it'd be nice if they put everything down to some AU Daleks. Like have the 'hiccup' that jerked the Tardis out of this universe being part of a greater arc showing the Daleks of the multiverse were beginning to meddle in things that previously only the Time Lords could.

With no one to counter them in this universe now that the Time Lords are gone it would be a fairly interesting idea.

[Fineus]

Since an0n mentioned The Master though, I do really want to see him return. The Daleks remain my favourite 'Who bad guy but The Master came a close second and it'd be great to see a better modern day interpretation of him than the last film the Americans did.

(No offence to any Americans meant here, but it was a poor film).

[karajorma]

I firmly agree. I've always wanted to see The Master return since they restarted the show. Maybe they're keeping him back for season 3 though.

[aldo_14]

Still, it'd be nice if they put everything down to some AU Daleks. Like have the 'hiccup' that jerked the Tardis out of this universe being part of a greater arc showing the Daleks of the multiverse were beginning to meddle in things that previously only the Time Lords could.

With no one to counter them in this universe now that the Time Lords are gone it would be a fairly interesting idea.

I was confuzzled about something, actually, not being a particularly regular viewer; are there are also no Time Lords in the alternate Cybermen universe?

[Fineus]

That's a good point y'know.. just because the Time Lords were wiped out in one dimension doesn't mean they were across the board..

[aldo_14]

That's a good point y'know.. just because the Time Lords were wiped out in one dimension doesn't mean they were across the board..

Unless they're pan-dimensional, which I guess could be possible.

[Fineus]

The Time Lords might have been but I'm not sure the Daleks were... in the first Cyberman episode the Doctor made some comment about his people stopping that kind of thing from happening, repairing dimensional holes etc...

[Colonol Dekker]

This is gonna sound kind of bad i know but bear with me it just popped into my head.... In the episode where Rose saves her dad, "reapers" (for lack of a better word) Appear and f**k everyone over until Roses dad kills himself healing the "tear" in time. They come about because someone interfered in the natural flow of time and things. Correct?

So why for Jeebus Cripes sake, dont the same thingies appear any time the Doctor stops anyone from getting killed? EG, Fist one of the new series with the dummies with guns in their hands?

[aldo_14]

This is gonna sound kind of bad i know but bear with me it just popped into my head.... In the episode where Rose saves her dad, "reapers" (for lack of a better word) Appear and f**k everyone over until Roses dad kills himself healing the "tear" in time. They come about because someone interfered in the natural flow of time and things. Correct?

So why for Jeebus Cripes sake, dont the same thingies appear any time the Doctor stops anyone from getting killed? EG, Fist one of the new series with the dummies with guns in their hands?

Maybe because the Doctor is a Time Lord and sort of gets away with **** like that?

[Colonol Dekker]

Lecky git 

[Kie99]

This is gonna sound kind of bad i know but bear with me it just popped into my head.... In the episode where Rose saves her dad, "reapers" (for lack of a better word) Appear and f**k everyone over until Roses dad kills himself healing the "tear" in time. They come about because someone interfered in the natural flow of time and things. Correct?

No.  The Reapers appeared because two of the Doctor and Rose being in the same place at the same time had created a weak point.

[Colonol Dekker]

  I dont notice girls until theyre over 21, even on tv lol.........
Cheers for dat

[an0n]

I got the impression that the Time Lords were unique, in that they were the first and only race to master the higher order mechanics of the multiverse. Meaning they were the first (and through that virtue, the only) race capable of opening gateways to other dimensions.

They spread out to police the multiverse before anyone else and steered others away from that knowledge for fear of the havok they'd wreak.

So when Gallifrey was wiped out and the Eye of Harmony became kaput, and the Tardises lost the only thing powerful enough to let them skip dimensions, and began having to resort to draining energy from temporal hotspots to keep themselves fuelled for time-jumping.

As for the Reapers - they only showed up because a paradox was created. A few .

[Colonol Dekker]

Right it was shown on saturday, Satan or not, What are your views?

[IPAndrews]

I don't know but the story fell apart towards the end.