[aldo_14]

I find I'm more biased towards Israel, I think that's because they're way more sane than the Palestinians. I mean let's face it, Ahmadinejad is a ****ing psychopath.
They both irrationally hate each other though. They need to build a huge wall.

Ahmadinejad  is the Iranian president.

[Taristin]

Mmhmm.

Still think Israel is more to blame for the troubles there, m'self.

[Flipside]

Frankly, I think its 6 of one, half dozen of the other. The Jews feel they have a right to be there, the Palestinians believe they don't. Considering the whole area was Byzantine for a time, as well as being part of several other Empires throughout History, how do we judge who is 'right' and who is 'wrong', why not just give the whole area back to Persia if we are going to go into Historical context?

The fact of the matter is that until people stop complaining about the way things 'should be' and start dealing with the way things 'are', this is never going to get sorted.

[Mars]

Translation:
This is never going to get sorted.

[Turambar]

thats why my plan for peace involves palestinians and israelis being forced to live in alternating houses and work in the same places.

as soon as each side realizes that the other side is comprised of human beings like themselves, the conflict will stop

honestly, the concept of sharing is entirely lost on all of them

[Flipside]

One quick question...

With this current referendum in Palestine about recognising Israel as a country, does this mean that any 'State sponsored' acts of violence would be an open declaration of War against a recognised foreign power? Which is a fair bit from Random acts of Terrorism from a militant group?

[WeatherOp]

I know how to get peace, blow the Muslim building off the the temple mount. It would get peace between them two factions, but start another war however.

[Flipside]

Not a War, it's start a bloodbath.

[Turambar]

One quick question...

With this current referendum in Palestine about recognising Israel as a country, does this mean that any 'State sponsored' acts of violence would be an open declaration of War against a recognised foreign power? Which is a fair bit from Random acts of Terrorism from a militant group?

thats just propaganda that the Israel and its puppet, the US government, spew out to keep americans from considering the problem on their own and coming up with their own opinions.  funny how the US claims to act in the name of freedom, while we're losing freedom at home, and supporting it's suppression in other parts of the world.  i'm really getting sick of it.

[aldo_14]

Israel and it's puppet, the US?

[Turambar]

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0323-09.htm

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2006/05/the_israel_lobby.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0321/dailyUpdate.html


the sites might be a little sketchy (i know, christian science...), but the study is real, got a printed copy of it in my house

[Taristin]

thats why my plan for peace involves palestinians and israelis being forced to live in alternating houses and work in the same places.

as soon as each side realizes that the other side is comprised of human beings like themselves, the conflict will stop

honestly, the concept of sharing is entirely lost on all of them

Not much better in the US, when you think of it. Your plan... they tried in the south with blacks and whites. And they still dont get along. Sure... on the outside they do, but I wonder how many express how they really feel when they think they are with people who think like them.
I sit and stay quiet, and I hear a lot.

[Taristin]

I know how to get peace, blow the Muslim building off the the temple mount. It would get peace between them two factions, but start another war however.

Sorry, but that's the stupidest thing I've heard yet. Why do the jews have the rights to land that was and is occupied by Muslims? (Hell, thats the entire problem in this whole region)

[Mefustae]

I say we need a third party to go in there and kick them both out, lay some underground nuclear charges, and collapse the area into the Mediterranean. 'Tis the same way you would handle two children fighting over the same toy; if they can't learn to share, take the toy away and niether of them can have it.

[Mars]

That's the best idea for a solution I've heard in a long time.

[redsniper]

Then it would just turn into a naval battle.

[Mefustae]

Then it would just turn into a naval battle.

See, now that would just be plain cool. We've not seen a good, large Naval battle since the 40's, we need another one, dammit!

[FireCrack]

And the palestinians wouldn't be launching rocket attacks if the Israelis hadn't invaded their country and kicked them off their land.

Country?

[karajorma]

What do you want me to call Palestine after 1947? 

Why not just give the whole area back to Persia if we are going to go into Historical context?

If you're going to be fair about it the Spanish end up in control of that area. Direct decendents of the Phoenicans see, and even the Bible gives them prior claim.

[AlphaOne]

I dont kniow what the hell those "things" are actualui fighting for over there. Its a barren land with no real strategical or economical value. Hell just go buy some country in Africa or some relly big island and you could fit the entire jewish population there.

Note: I used the word "things" because you can not call human people who actualy loke to blow eachothers children families etc into the air for well for the heck of it basicly. They have no realistic reason to keep foghting like this.