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Offline TrashMan

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #20 on: June 12, 2006, 05:16:16 pm
I hate to say it, but if I had to pick a side as a lesser of two evils it would be Palestinians..

They have loosly organized, independent groups that don't answer to no one that go off and kill eople.

Israel does it in a organized, government sanctioned and blessed way...
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #21 on: June 12, 2006, 05:18:30 pm
Israelis are fighting to oppress people
Palestinians are fighting to liberate people

its all in the motives
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #22 on: June 12, 2006, 05:19:36 pm
So, it's ok to kill people - women, children, the elderly - because they're of a particular nationality.  Good to see the 'forces of freedom' are so moral.
 

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #23 on: June 12, 2006, 05:21:45 pm
well it's definitely not ok to kill women, children and the elderly to keep the rest of them in line.
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #24 on: June 12, 2006, 05:25:11 pm
Quote from: Turambar on June 12, 2006, 05:21:45 pm
well it's definitely not ok to kill women, children and the elderly to keep the rest of them in line.

So, it's not ok to kill people - women, children, the elderly - simply because they are Israeli,  then?  Or are you saying it's ok because they're Israeli and some other people did some bad things?
 

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #25 on: June 12, 2006, 05:27:12 pm
its never ok, and with civilians it can't be justified.  but there are two sides in this conflict, one represents oppression and the other seeks liberation.  i'll continue to align with the side seeking liberation.
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #26 on: June 12, 2006, 05:28:34 pm
Quote from: Turambar on June 12, 2006, 05:27:12 pm
its never ok, and with civilians it can't be justified.  but there are two sides in this conflict, one represents oppression and the other seeks liberation.  i'll continue to align with the side seeking liberation.

Why not align with a side seeking peace?  If you align with anyone, how can it be anything but a tacit endorsement of violence?
 

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #27 on: June 12, 2006, 05:29:04 pm
I'm impressed Israel's had the brains to sit this one out.

If they let them chew each other up for a few months, it'll make it harder for them to form a cohesive resistance when the IDF chews through all the Palestinian land and finally emerges victorious.

Y'know, I'm kinda hoping the Jews do manage to get a nice, stable, secure power-base in Israel. C'z it can only ever help to bring about the Apocalypse.
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #28 on: June 12, 2006, 06:07:24 pm
This has sort of gone quiet all of a sudden...
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #29 on: June 12, 2006, 06:11:16 pm
Turambar.






Shut up.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not even making good arguments. aldo_14 is whooping your ass so succintly that it's painful to read the bovine waste products spewing from your orifice.
 

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #30 on: June 12, 2006, 06:14:16 pm
I'd say both sides have their merit, and that neither side is exactly flawless. I'd say that it's like a couple of kids fighting over a sand pile.
 

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #31 on: June 12, 2006, 06:35:29 pm
The papers in the US have been predicting something like civil war for about a week...
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #32 on: June 12, 2006, 07:45:34 pm
Democracy @ work. :p
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #33 on: June 12, 2006, 08:51:09 pm
Quote from: Mars on June 12, 2006, 06:14:16 pm
I'd say both sides have their merit, and that neither side is exactly flawless. I'd say that it's like a couple of kids fighting over a sand pile.

Yes, but kids with Kalashnikovs. And, in an utterly ironic turn of events, Israeli-donated M4s. The PLO is getting all respectable-like, with fancy uniforms and Western weapons. Which is why I say that Israel should tip the odds in their favour a bit by donating some Merkavas. BOOM - no more Hamas problem, and the international media can't lay the blame at your doorstep.
 

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #34 on: June 12, 2006, 08:57:02 pm
True, but then Israel have already stated that they won't consider the referendum binding because it applies to parts of the West Bank that they want to keep.

It's a risky game they are playing, even papers that traditionally supported the point of view are starting to very carefully detach themselves from that 'snap the Olive Branch' kind of Foreign Policy. Yahoo even point out that the World Court, as they call it, has found the occupation illegal.

It's all pretty depressing really :)
 

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #35 on: June 13, 2006, 12:02:00 pm
to think one of thre most (current) likely causes of WW3 is a fight over a patch of desert......
 

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #36 on: June 13, 2006, 04:23:13 pm
A patch of desert someone calls home....
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #37 on: June 13, 2006, 04:30:45 pm
Quote from: TrashMan on June 13, 2006, 04:23:13 pm
A patch of desert someone calls home....

2 someones, natch.
 

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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #38 on: June 13, 2006, 05:01:13 pm
Quote from: AlphaOne on June 12, 2006, 03:23:25 pm
I'l stick to the original idea..just nuke the whole god damn area and get it over with. No more fighting no more dying no nothing. And since its heavely iradiated theres no more fighting over who ocupies what. but then agin the srvivors would likeli be fighting over a nclear wasteland anywai....theres just no getting around this is there??

Ok, I'm left with one question then. After you nuke the whole area, who will pay for the server hosting HLP after I'm radioactive particles?
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Re: Civil war in Palestine?
Reply #39 on: June 13, 2006, 05:04:20 pm
silly sandwich, the particles wouldnt be radioactive.
exposure to radioactivity doesn't make things radioactive.

correct would be : who will pay for the server hosting HLP after my component atoms are covered in radioactive particles.

similar effect though



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