[aldo_14]

No website link yet, but it's just being reported that hundreds of PLO-loyal troops and police have stormed government buildings.

[Mars]

Wouldn't suprise me they're the US's "allies" but the entire "country" hates us for supporting Isreal.

[Rictor]

Am I the only one who thinks Palestinian in-fighting would be a lot more fun if they had access to heavy armour, air power etc instead of just small arms. On the other hand, that **** would probably all be lying destroyed by the side of the road within a week.

Seems to me that Hamas is going to lose this one. The PLO position of implicitly acknowledging Israel is favoured by pretty much everyone outside of the country, including the US, the EU, the Arab states and of course Israel itself. Hamas can't take on the PLO if the latter is backed by the rest of the world as the lesser of two evils.

[aldo_14]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5073548.stm

Gunmen loyal to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas have set fire to the offices of the Hamas prime minister in Ramallah, witnesses say.

The office was unoccupied as Ismail Haniya is based in the Gaza Strip.

Security personnel and militiamen fired shots before rampaging the offices in protest at earlier clashes in Gaza.

Hamas and Mr Abbas's Fatah factions have been involved in a power struggle since the Palestinian elections in January, which were won by Hamas.

The gunmen also fired shots at the parliament building. It is not clear if there have been any casualites.

The BBC's Jeannie Assad in Ramallah says the gunmen belong to the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, an offshoot of Fatah.

Earlier on Monday a Hamas gunman was killed in a clash with security forces loyal to the rival Fatah faction, in Rafah in the Gaza Strip. Each side blamed the other for firing first.

Tensions have worsened between the two sides since Mr Abbas called a referendum on a statehood plan which would implicitly recognise Israel, whose right to exist Hamas rejects

sorry, Fatah, not PLO (even if they are a big chunk of it).

[AlphaOne]

For real now those people just like keeling and keeling eachother. The reasons are so dumb and stupid its giving me head hurts.

[achtung]

Natural Selection? 

[AlphaOne]

Yeap that could be it. Or it could just be that God's plaing a practical joke on them and its his way of roting out the Idiots and the imbecils from the world gene pool. For real people like those shouldnt be alowed to reproducen cuz all they do is breed and teach their children how to shoot the eachother.

[Rictor]

For real now those people just like keeling and keeling eachother. The reasons are so dumb and stupid its giving me head hurts.

They seem dumb to you because you don't live there. This is a power play for the future control of the Palestinian territories, and possibly the fate of those territories in relation to Israel.

[AlphaOne]

And thst a reason to wage a what 40 year war or something like that??

I dont think so. I mean all those people ever do is hate eachother. Its sort of like theyr national sport. Oh and sending out suicide bommbers/air strikes....this would be like theyr favorite past time.

I'l stick to the original idea..just nuke the whole god damn area and get it over with. No more fighting no more dying no nothing. And since its heavely iradiated theres no more fighting over who ocupies what. but then agin the srvivors would likeli be fighting over a nclear wasteland anywai....theres just no getting around this is there??


I know it sound cruel and saidstic but its a lot more mercifull then sending young children to theyr death for another 30 or 40 years.

[aldo_14]

Ah yes, the 'kill them all because it's a tough problem' school of thought.

[AlphaOne]

Not necesaryli togh, rather too expensive. Its cheaper to just nuke the place and get it over with. Plus this way the genel pool is less poluted.

But seriously now those people will ALWAIS and i mean alwais find a reason to kill eachother. And if they run out of guns(doubt it) they probably use rocks and clubs.

[achtung]

Hey, we all fight.  It's just to what extent your willing to go to in order to spite your enemy.

[Turambar]

nooooooo dammit the israelis are the enemy.  the israelis are the ones randomly killing palestinian civilians, stealing their land, cutting off power and water to their towns, restricting their travel.

one more thing gone wrong in the world :-(

[aldo_14]

nooooooo dammit the israelis are the enemy.  the israelis are the ones randomly killing palestinian civilians, stealing their land, cutting off power and water to their towns, restricting their travel.

one more thing gone wrong in the world :-(

The whole thing about the situation, is that both sides can justify themselves with 'they did this'.  Until we go so far back in time that anyone around at the time is now just bones and dust.  That's the whole problem.  If neither side admits what they've done wrong - be it bulldozing refugee camps and killing civillians with tanks, or blowing up a bus, propagating holocaust denial & anti-semitism as part of the 'national' media & executing civillians - then we get, guess what, a cycle of violence!

[Turambar]

yeah but the palestinians are the good guys

[aldo_14]

yeah but the palestinians are the good guys

What, you mean the ones that stick semtex onto their waists and blow up a cafe?

[Turambar]

the ones that sacrifice their lives for the cause of freedom

[aldo_14]

the ones that sacrifice their lives for the cause of freedom

Right, the murdering bastard cowards killing children?

[Turambar]

those are the israelis

they also pull innocent bystanders to use as human shields

[aldo_14]

those are the israelis

they also pull innocent bystanders to use as human shields

Right.

So in other words, you're condemning killing of innocents by one side, and praising it from the other?  Presumably, if caught in the wake of someone showing their desire for freedom by accelerating a sphere of nails to supersonic speeds into a crowd, you'd be ok with that?