[NGTM-1R]

No matter what she does, a girl never deserves to be hit or strangled. A real man would never do that, only a coward would.

Only a fool stands there and takes it.

[Charismatic]

So he would let a girl continuely kick him in the balls, and not even think she deserves to get hit for it? He will reconciter on kick number 3...if hes strong willed..maby kick number 5.

As someone said, would you let a guy do it to you? It makes no difference, when dealing with your balls saftey.

[Kosh]

I mean, if it were a bloke that kicked you in the nads, i'm sure none of us would have any qualms about smacking some sense into him. But should a woman do it, it is taboo to do pretty much anything in reprisal other than perhaps raising your voice at her, and even then you're on shaky moral ground. What I want to know is, why?

Because men have been doing this to girls for thousands of years, now it is their turn to have power over us.

Some girls deserve to get slaped or hit. If they decide to hit in the balls, i think a hard punch to the face or arm would suffice back, as men are stronger. A girl has no right to do that to a man.

I hope that you die a virgin.

Only a fool stands there and takes it.

I never said you couldn't defend yourself, only I wouldn't hit back.

So he would let a girl continuely kick him in the balls, and not even think she deserves to get hit for it? He will reconciter on kick number 3...if hes strong willed..maby kick number 5.

No. Restraining her is permitted, but slapping/hitting or choking her is not acceptable.

[Sarafan]

Men have been doing that for thousands of years, yes. Does that mean its right for them to do it on us now? NO. Its wrong for anyone to do that kind of thing. By this view, then it means that we should get slavery up again but this time on every white person. Its better to just put a stop to it altogether so that nobody has this kind of power above the other.

[Goober5000]

No matter what she does, a girl never deserves to be hit or strangled. A real man would never do that, only a coward would.

A lady never deserves that.  Not all girls are ladies.  The girl in AlphaOne's case certainly isn't.  If a girl wants to be treated like a lady, she should act like one.

Feminists have twisted "equality" into "sameness".  They want to be treated exactly the same as men.  Okay, fine then - if one punches me, they should expect to get punched back.  They made their bed, now let them sleep in it.

This reminds me of a story one of my colleagues told me.  When he was growing up, there was this incident where he and a bunch of boys were playing in the neighborhood field, and a girl came up and just started punching one of them.  The guy who got punched just stood there, and warned her not to do it, but she did it again, laughing.  He warned her again, and his friends were astonished that he would just stand there and take it.  The girl started mocking him, and he kept repeating, "I don't want to hit you, it's not right to hit a girl."  She punched him one last time, and he finally punched her back.  She fell backwards onto the field, with a bloody nose, astonished, and ran off crying.  When my colleague told his parents, they agreed with what happened and gave him that "not all girls are ladies" line above (in fact, that's where I first heard it).  How times have changed.

[Shadow0000]

No matter what she does, a girl never deserves to be hit or strangled. A real man would never do that, only a coward would.

Real man seems to be a common argument in masculinism, in which is cited portrayals of violence against women as more important than other forms of violence. In the case of him being a gentleman, it would mean to threat others in a respectful manner, she hit him trying to hurt him, he tries to do the same in a slighty different way, mutual respect, no one of the two really cares for the other feelings about being hurt, so...

Again, a coward is somone who attacks and/or kills a defenceless person, by hitting him first, and physically hurting him specially, she has proven to not be defenseless.

You're weak.

Weak and it's opposite, strong, are terms which refers to physical measurements. He was a able to defense himself, he is not, he doesn't lack of physical strenght.

Only a fool stands there and takes it.

Exactly. If a man hit you is an agression, so you try to defend, eventually hitting back in self-defense, by the counterpart if a woman hits you there is no agression at all, and if you hit back you're a physic abuser.

I bet any men is aware that testicles are very sensitive to impact and injury, which can provoke the subject a mayor part of testicle disseases.

[Kosh]

Weak and it's opposite, strong, are terms which refers to physical standars. He was a able to defense himself, he is not, he doesn't lack of physical strenght.

There's more than one kind of strength.

[WMCoolmon]

I mean, if it were a bloke that kicked you in the nads, i'm sure none of us would have any qualms about smacking some sense into him. But should a woman do it, it is taboo to do pretty much anything in reprisal other than perhaps raising your voice at her, and even then you're on shaky moral ground. What I want to know is, why?

Because men have been doing this to girls for thousands of years, now it is their turn to have power over us.

And with that sentence you give up any hope of 'equality'. Very fast, all that happens is further injustice and sexism. No progress is ever made. For x thousand years, men abuse women. Then for next x thousand years, women abuse men. Then for next x thousand years, men abuse women. All very stupid.

Now apply that criteria to race as well, nationality, religion, and watch how fast the world falls apart.

Or in more simple terms, "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind".

And on a more personal level, if women are going to ***** and moan about sexism (and I realize the irony inherent in that phrase, bear with me a moment) then I feel that they should be willing to show some restraint themselves and not just shift into blatant sexism mode. If they are, I don't give a damn about what my ancestors did, I'm not going to repeat women's mistake of the past and just sit there while the opposite sex stereotypes me into a corner.

Some girls deserve to get slaped or hit. If they decide to hit in the balls, i think a hard punch to the face or arm would suffice back, as men are stronger. A girl has no right to do that to a man.

I hope that you die a virgin.

You will die a virgin, if you just stand there while a girl kicks your testicles into a bloody pulp.

Only a fool stands there and takes it.

I never said you couldn't defend yourself, only I wouldn't hit back.

Except by starting this argument, you are indeed protesting his defending himself.

So he would let a girl continuely kick him in the balls, and not even think she deserves to get hit for it? He will reconciter on kick number 3...if hes strong willed..maby kick number 5.

No. Restraining her is permitted, but slapping/hitting or choking her is not acceptable.

In a sense, restraining someone is even more a violation of a person's space (emotionally and physically) than just hitting them is. Hitting them, you're saying "You make me hurt, I'll make you hurt." Restraining them is saying "I can make you powerless against me."

Kicking someone in the genitals is just about as personal a violation as you can get. It's violent unsolicited sexual contact. Especially in the case of a girl kicking a guy, it's usually something along the lines of 'I am woman, hear me roar' outside of a self-defense situation. Which I have no mercy for, because if they really were that powerful in the first place, they wouldn't need to go around kicking people in the balls to prove it.

[AlphaOne]

Umm Goober which girl cuz I have 2 posts and 2 diferent girls posted there with 2 diferent situations.

But anyway back to the topic at hand.

Why is he weak because he has the curage not to freaking kill the b***h who kicked him in the balls.

Hey that are is the most sensitive and intimite area a man can have and for a women to deliberately exploit that weakness its just like rape. At least from mi POW. I mean imagine if men all over the world would start exploting women's weakneses then where would we be.....mass rapes and all that s**t that just make me sick.

Either youre a lady and you act like one so that you mai be treated acordingly or yu are pne o those feminist tipe ******s who just moan and scream about theyr right's beeing violated. (man could i puch one of those in the face all day and still not get tired or bored...if I wasnt a getlemen that is).

Look the point is that even mi girl thinks that women like these deserve what they get. This whole women are weaker give them special treatement is just wrong. They never say they want special treatement they just say they want equal rights but they dont say they MUST have equal obligations.

Oh and if they complain about sexual discrimination then send them to a freaking coutroom where women are favored instead of the men for adoptions and custody hearings. Even if the mother is unfit she still can emerge victorious in a custody battle with a decend lawyer.

[Shadow0000]

There's more than one kind of strength.

That's the point, he is not "weak", but can be considered "psychologically weak" because he wasn't able to stop himself from hurting her as she has done with him, in which case she also wans't able to stop herself from hurting him physically, the term was too generalized, in any case "weak" and it kinds should be applied to both of them.

I agree somewhat in the case that hitting back, doing the same amount damage to your aggressor doesn't make you better than her, but again you are being hit and you have the option to defend without hitting back, and you in that moment, you have an option that can make a difference by not hitting her, and then you ask, why is she hitting me, doesn't she has any other choice than hitting me because she just wants to ?, then why I am responsible of an act that has nothing to do with what I have made or I would make ?.
Maybe masculinism hits again: the most powerful ones have choices (men) and governs everyone destinies including yours (women's destiny for sure), as you're the man, self and auto-proclaimed for unexplainable reasons the most powerful of the two (as being said by kosh: there is more than one strength), you're the one who upon weaks's destiny depends, by putting yourself in charge of a situation you're not and was not generated by you, you're what could be cited "making yourself the man".
This is basically throwing the womans to a level so low, that then I would understand why she is hitting you, not only you're understimating her, you're having a totally "I am a so all mighty superior being" perspective, an actitude which would be able to annoy almost any human being...

When you're in suffering because of the pain that other person is making you feel, and you try to make the other understand peacefully that you're being hurt by his/her direct actions physically or psychologically, and even then they can't realize how much it hurts, the only way that you have left for them to understand, is to make them feel the same as you do, that or slowly turning yourself into a timed bomb. It is not at all that you're hitting back because you are going berserker, acting in a totally irrational way.

I hope that you die a virgin.

You will die a virgin, if you just stand there while a girl kicks your testicles into a bloody pulp.

Ditto, scary...though you can get a lot disseases much earlier in the process of being kicked, which can let you in a critical health state.

Oh and if they complain about sexual discrimination then send them to a freaking coutroom where women are favored instead of the men for adoptions and custody hearings. Even if the mother is unfit she still can emerge victorious in a custody battle with a decend lawyer.

Not only that, anybody knows what happens when a woman rapes a man ?, supposing people grown enough to understand rape is not only male-to-female, because of stereotypes he'll be lucky if he gets justice or even help...

[AlphaOne]

You are damn right about that one. There were 2 cases in the region where i'm staing when 2 wemwen raped a dude and another one cant remember the details. Yet for all this even the press made fun adn ridiculed the poor bastard. Also in one newspaper he was so trashed all over the floor by a female editor I was just stunned at what that b***h was saing.This was a acouple of years ago. Oh well she got her just deserved when some individual inclueding one female filled her full of paint inclueding her hair.

Oh so as not to forget the dude not only didnt get justice but he was actualy forced to pay for maikng up bogus alegations to the two wemen. they were all high and mighty. That just made me sick. Or you could go to see how children who eneded up in the mothers hands are dooing. Barely fed and clothed while the father who could of take a lot better care of them is forced to pay (forgot the term;please insert here the corect word) for his childred unpbringign by the mother (yea righ what upbringing) barely has acces to see his own children (when the mother is not drunck yet the judges granted her coustody again when the man apealed to the decision. How's that for discriminating. What about the fathers rights.

The region where i'm in wemen ussualy tend to be protected by the men. If they want to have an active profisional life they are suported in this endeavour but if they want to stay home raise the children or something like that they are also suported in this perspective if tha man can aford only one salary that is. Also the peasent population is somewhat similar while the women do most of the work around the house they have it easier then the men. So when a women compalins about beeing treaten unfair or something like that or dares to insult her husband in public he gets slapped so hard you wouldnt believe it.

It's something like "what the freak i feed you i clothe you i suport you in your freaking social life i take you to restaurants do the best to provide you with confort and wealfeare and now you come putting this bull***t to mi face?* They usualy lern the diference between a good and a bad husband really quick. A bad husband would of sent her to work even if she didnt or shouldnt of gone to work.

This mai sound like something out of the stoneage but its very very correct. Al the man ants is a hot meal and a clean home when he comes home from work he doesnt force her to work if he can provide for them he doesnt force her to do anithing a good decent wife should do yet he has to put up with a load of s***t when he omes home...helll no...slap her silly thats what I say. I'm not fo violence against women do not missinterpret me as I said above there are diferent wemen there are the ladies and there are the female's. There is a BIG diference bewteen them.


Also he wansnt weak because he hit back. She deliberately used a very sensitive and posibly lifethreatening point on his body to inflict severe pain and incapacitate him. It hust didnt work too well this time.

[karajorma]

What people need to realise is that outsides of the bounds of a boxing ring or other consentual sporting event you simply do not have the right to be violent to another person regardless of the gender of either person concerned.

All this you can't hit a woman stuff is simply bull****. She has absolutely no right to hit you either and if she does start a fight you have every right to respond in exactly the same way you would to any other threat.

[Wobble73]

Regarding women raping men, the law seems to see that if a man is aroused/stimulated/whatever then it cannot be rape. I mean if he was flaccid, the act of sex would be impossible, however he was, you know, hard, he is actually enjoying the fact. What do people think of that, is it possible to be erect without being turned on, enjoying it?

[karajorma]

Arousal and consent are two completely different matters. Otherwise a male rapist could claim the fact that a woman got wet was similar proof of the fact that it wasn't rape.

[AlphaOne]

yes it could but we dont see that happening now do we. This is blatent discrimination towards the male population. This was unavoidable actualy ever since wemen got the same rights as men and not the same obligations.

And dont look at me like i'm some male misoginist cuz well I aint i just dont like feminist wemen or men for that matter.

also note that wemen can be put into two categories ladyes and...well the other ones.

[Shadow0000]

No, erection/arousal/stimulation is unvoluntary, this is the same as saying that a woman wasn't raped by a man because she lubricated and orgasmed, they are totally unvoluntary responses, you add that to the stereotype that "man always are disposed to have sex with a woman", and not only that but most people believes that rape is just male-female, and forget about the other 3 kinds, so much that when a woman rapes a man in some countries the charge is not called archieved as "rape", but under a different name or law/punishement.

Rape of males by females is widely, but incorrectly, considered impossible because male erectile response is seen as voluntary, when, in fact, it is involuntary. Therefore, male victims of rape by females often face social, political, and legal double-standards. Female rapists are usually seen as much less culpable than male rapists by the courts. In addition, male victims of female rape often endure a double-bind because men are considered to always want sex with a woman which means that female-on-male rape can be seen, by others, as consensual when in fact the female sexual predator usually uses covert psychological or emotional coercion to commit the crime. In addition, since rape by females is much less well known than male-female rape, male victims of female rapists often find little support from rape crisis centers. Finally, since the incidence of female-on-male rape is on record at much higher rates (31% compared to 10%) in Canada, it is likely being substantially under-reported in the US.

In many countries, male rape is legally classified under a different law or name. However, the nature of the incident, and its consequences, are similar. It is said that male rape is taken less seriously as a result of the stereotypical views held about males in many societies, including modern Western society. Men's rights lobbyists are pushing for tougher male rape laws, and have gained some success, but many still feel that more work is needed to be done.

[Kazan]

still a lot of thinly veiled sexism in this thread that you hide with claiming "well if they're going to be equal..."

like someone *cough* claiming that women don't want to be equal, they want to be better, or the entire "you cannot do that do a girl!" **** about hitting

if the girl hits you, you have the right to hit her back

that being said someone in this thread needs to learn some ****ing self control

[Kazan]

No, erection/arousal/stimulation is unvoluntary, this is the same as saying that a woman wasn't raped by a man because she lubricated and orgasmed, they are totally unvoluntary responses, you add that to the stereotype that "man always are disposed to have sex with a woman", and not only that but most people believes that rape is just male-female, and forget about the other 3 kinds, so much that when a woman rapes a man in some countries the charge is not called archieved as "rape", but under a different name or law/punishement.

most women (66%) cannot orgasm through coitus - they need clitoral stimulation
females do not become lubricated when they are not aroused
they do not become aroused simply by the presence of a naked man (IE the female sexual response is much more voluntary than the male sexual response)

that makes it so rape is more physically damaging than it otherwise would be - the woman is almost certainly not lubricated, her muscles are not loosned up to accept the penis into the vagina either

[AlphaOne]

who needs to lern some self control? I hope you werent talking about me...!

[Kazan]

nein, ich rede ueber pecenipicek