[Axem]

Does anyone know where I can find a model of a Shivan? I know that someone made one a while back, but my searches have come up with nothing.

Any help would greatly be appreciated. 

[Goober5000]

Didn't I just post this last month or something?
http://www.hard-light.net/staff/goober5000/shivanbeing.rar
http://www.hard-light.net/staff/goober5000/HPshivan.rar

[Axem]

A quick search of the file name only yields Nico's original thread with dead links. I guess the thread you put it up must have vanished.

Anyway, thank you very much. 

[Goober5000]

You're welcome.

[Dark Hunter]

Could you actually make a "ship" out of those models? If you had a proper entry in the ships.tbl? Be pretty cool to have Shivans attacking ships in a campaign.

[Goober5000]

I've tried that, but the problem is that the Shivan is so small (compared to a fighter) that it's impossible to see until it's right on top of you.

[Dark Hunter]

That's why you use swarms. 

[pecenipicek]

well, piranhas just got themselves a new use

[Elmer Fudd voice]Be vevvy vevvy quiet, i'm hunting Shivans[/Elmer Fudd voice]
Shivan: ... SCREEEEEEECH!!!!
*sounds of random mutilation due*
Shivan: *munch munch* Tasty human burger!!! *raises its analogue of a thumb*

[CP5670]

Didn't I just post this last month or something?
http://www.hard-light.net/staff/goober5000/shivanbeing.rar
http://www.hard-light.net/staff/goober5000/HPshivan.rar

Those look quite nice, but the body is too short. I guess we also have no textures for them.

Could you actually make a "ship" out of those models? If you had a proper entry in the ships.tbl? Be pretty cool to have Shivans attacking ships in a campaign.

You mean like that Thoth-pounding one in the shiphit2 movie? That would be funny to see in the game.

[Harbinger of DOOM]

well, piranhas just got themselves a new use

[Elmer Fudd voice]Be vevvy vevvy quiet, i'm hunting Shivans[/Elmer Fudd voice]
Shivan: ... SCREEEEEEECH!!!!
*sounds of random mutilation due*
Shivan: *munch munch* Tasty human burger!!! *raises its analogue of a thumb*

Poor Elmer.....
That would be absolutely hilarious to see 100 Shivans swarming around a single Herc I...... ROFL!

[Colonol Dekker]

With tiny little shivan eye-beams,. V cool concept.

[Mefustae]

If the mechanics behind making little Shivans attack your ship are a little too complex to come to fruition, how about just getting some little models, complete with flailing arms/legs, and spawn them when a capital ship is destroyed. We could do the same with Terran and Vasudan ships as well; whenever a ship is destoyed, amongst the debris there could be a number of little flailing Humans or Zods floating around for a little while.

How much lag would there be for having a few dozen flailing humans, shivans and zods floating around?

[Colonol Dekker]

Minimal i expect, it depends on poly count though....

[Flipside]

Yup, there was talk of doing something similar with little models of people when a GTVA ship was destroyed but it was decided to be a waste of processor and GPU time.

[Harbinger of DOOM]

Still......... It would be a nice touch.

[pecenipicek]

and if you went thru the debris field, they'd bump off of your fighter

well, piranhas just got themselves a new use

[Elmer Fudd voice]Be vevvy vevvy quiet, i'm hunting Shivans[/Elmer Fudd voice]
Shivan: ... SCREEEEEEECH!!!!
*sounds of random mutilation due*
Shivan: *munch munch* Tasty human burger!!! *raises its analogue of a thumb*

Poor Elmer.....
That would be absolutely hilarious to see 100 Shivans swarming around a single Herc I...... ROFL!

dont give me ideas

[Getter Robo G]

(Innocent whistle)... I already secured a LP pilot model  for Trek and was thinkign same thing. You blow up a cap and it spawns X number of "casualties". While damage would be like 1 point (or none), it would be more of a psycological thing to have you ship ramming dead or dying friendlies that are in your flight path you wont see till it's too late... BUMP! 

Same for Shivans, just make the number really small. For them you would think a handful would survive EVA and try to take you out!

[Harbinger of DOOM]

and if you went thru the debris field, they'd bump off of your fighter

well, piranhas just got themselves a new use

[Elmer Fudd voice]Be vevvy vevvy quiet, i'm hunting Shivans[/Elmer Fudd voice]
Shivan: ... SCREEEEEEECH!!!!
*sounds of random mutilation due*
Shivan: *munch munch* Tasty human burger!!! *raises its analogue of a thumb*

Poor Elmer.....
That would be absolutely hilarious to see 100 Shivans swarming around a single Herc I...... ROFL!

dont give me ideas

Why not? *evil grin*
Personally I think most people who blow up a ship with a bomber or something are usually too busy evading fighters and stuff to notice a bunch of stiffs bumping against your cockpit canopy.

[Dark Hunter]

I'm thinkin it could be a good touch to a mystery scene.

Imagine, you arrive at a Shivan rally point, ready to ambush, only to find a debris filed, a couple ravaged ships, and a bunch of dead Shivans floating about. Makes it... well, maybe not realistic, but pretty cool.

[Gregster2k]

Does FreeSpace 2 have the capability to "spawn" other objects things (fixed number or random) triggered by the destruction of a specific thing?

I.e. to make it so that whenever a large Shivan ship is destroyed it spawns a number of smaller ships?

Descent3 had this; some robots, when destroyed, would leave behind new robots to deal with, usually a smaller "pilot" robot.

Or it used that system to spawn unique explosions or produce extremely deadly missiles.

I used to have fun in Descent 3 making missiles that would fly ahead, explode, launch several other bomblets off the explosion, which then fragmented into more bomblets, which also exploded...

...making room-clearing weapons was sooooo much fun...

...Anyways, if FS2 doesn't already have a system just like D3's Table .GAM File system (anyone familiar with it) for spawning stuff, it should be looked into -- because it would allow a ton of flexibility where creating debris ingame is concerned.